AF Corse

The Badger · 2 Jan 2013, 15:02 (Ref:3183826)

Quick question that doesnt fit anyplace else really .

How many Ferrari 458's do AF Corse own please ?

And how many of what type , meaning GTE Pro/Am , GT3 , whatever else .

JohnMiller · 2 Jan 2013, 15:03 (Ref:3183827)

Wouldn't they be owned by customers?

arakis · 2 Jan 2013, 15:05 (Ref:3183828)

Butt-loads

Victor_RO · 2 Jan 2013, 15:07 (Ref:3183829)

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Originally Posted by JohnMiller

Wouldn't they be owned by customers?

And aren't the GTE-Pro cars (as factory cars) owned by Michelotto?

Nick6 · 2 Jan 2013, 15:23 (Ref:3183835)

Just speculating here, but they might have a combination of owned, leased and customer owned cars.

The Badger · 2 Jan 2013, 15:38 (Ref:3183844)

Just seems to me they have cars everywhere . Possibily the AF Waltrip car is owned by Waltrip , but Ive never heard that said before . Im just tryin to find out what they own exactly .

And Im surprised at your answer Arakis ..... I thought you of all would have hbeen able to answer that question for me !!!

Breitling24 · 2 Jan 2013, 16:03 (Ref:3183852)

Ask them directly, contact page link from their site...

http://www.afcorse.it/english/contacts

They even have supplied a check in the "info request" box.

**Aysedasi** · 2 Jan 2013, 17:03 (Ref:3183877)

How's your Italian G?

arakis · 2 Jan 2013, 17:43 (Ref:3183900)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

And Im surprised at your answer Arakis ..... I thought you of all would have hbeen able to answer that question for me !!!

Sorry to disappoint, but I was never concerned with how many cars they have, If I had to guess I'd say between 10 and 15 GTE and GT3s total... But as to who owns what in what series and under what conditions, i never researched.. As long as they have a prancing horse on their hood, factory support and kick ass in GTE I'm happy

sublimao · 2 Jan 2013, 17:57 (Ref:3183906)

I think Ric6 gots the right answer.
AmatoFerrari owns cars and lease as well, the team is very close to the mother factory which is too busy (unfortunately) with the F1 program.

**skycafe** · 2 Jan 2013, 18:03 (Ref:3183910)

semi-related question--did Risi always own his car(s), or were they owned by investors, or some loan from Ferrari/Michelleto?

Victor_RO · 2 Jan 2013, 18:13 (Ref:3183913)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

semi-related question--did Risi always own his car(s), or were they owned by investors, or some loan from Ferrari/Michelleto?

The chassis that had class wins at Le Mans '08, Petit '08, Sebring '09 and Le Mans '09 for Risi was owned from the start by a private individual according to one of Radio Le Mans' American contributors.

**skycafe** · 2 Jan 2013, 18:28 (Ref:3183920)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

The chassis that had class wins at Le Mans '08, Petit '08, Sebring '09 and Le Mans '09 for Risi was owned from the start by a private individual according to one of Radio Le Mans' American contributors.

Thanks for that (I should have done that myself). That car has to have been a really good investment.

I have another question now-typically in a stituation where an investor owns the car, are they contributing only the car or also some financial support to running it, or are those costs handled by the team running it? I guess it varies by team and also potentially by car?

Victor_RO · 2 Jan 2013, 18:30 (Ref:3183921)

Also, to add to that answer, some teams, for example Prodrive, pre-sold all their cars (the factory GT1 cars and the Lolas at least) to collectors, and the collectors got the cars when their racing careers ended.

The Badger · 2 Jan 2013, 19:03 (Ref:3183925)

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Originally Posted by Aysedasi

How's your Italian G?

About as good as your Aramic I reckon

Canada ALMS fan · 2 Jan 2013, 19:31 (Ref:3183934)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

The chassis that had class wins at Le Mans '08, Petit '08, Sebring '09 and Le Mans '09 for Risi was owned from the start by a private individual according to one of Radio Le Mans' American contributors.

This is accurate. There are some interesting stories about how that car was used as a parts bin at times (saw one of them first hand) to repair another chassis damaged at race events. If the owner only knew...

I know I couldn't take a torch to a Le Mans winner.
Quite a significant 430 in terms of Ferrari history, who wouldn't love to own it?

Victor_RO · 2 Jan 2013, 19:55 (Ref:3183942)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

This is accurate. There are some interesting stories about how that car was used as a parts bin at times (saw one of them first hand) to repair another chassis damaged at race events. If the owner only knew...

I know I couldn't take a torch to a Le Mans winner.
Quite a significant 430 in terms of Ferrari history, who wouldn't love to own it?

Maybe it got used as a parts bin before it started racking up the major wins? Risi did have a disastrous start to 2008 after all as RLM kept reminding us during the '08 Le Mans commentary, so maybe the owner thought the car wouldn't amount to much. Until it started winning all the long-distance classics, that is.

rich07 · 3 Jan 2013, 10:56 (Ref:3184164)

So is the car in one piece still?

No doubt that would be one of the most valuable Ferrari GT racers in the modern era.

Canada ALMS fan · 3 Jan 2013, 18:36 (Ref:3184272)

Yes it is. I think during one of the ALMS TV broadcasts they made reference to a rear fender being removed from it and borrowed after it was a already a Le Mans winner. I am speculating but I would hazard to guess either Tracy Krohn or Harrison Brix could be the owner. They helped fund Risi operations through that period.

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