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View Poll Results: Which circuits would you drop? (4-8 options please)
Mid-Ohio 8 9.76%
Lime Rock 29 35.37%
Mosport 5 6.10%
Austin 10 12.20%
Barber 36 43.90%
Indianapolis 44 53.66%
Virginia 14 17.07%
New Jersey 57 69.51%
Long Beach 23 28.05%
Detroit 37 45.12%
Baltimore 47 57.32%
Houston 64 78.05%
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Old 26 Jul 2013, 21:40 (Ref:3281997)   #176
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Can't wait for the new series to come to Indy next year! The stands are PACKED for the race going on right now. I think I see upwards of 30 people in attendance.
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Old 26 Jul 2013, 21:55 (Ref:3282007)   #177
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Choose your reply:

"who's racing there, now, after all?"
"who cares about roval racing anyways?"
"wait a minute, how'd the GA crowd triple? ;P"
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Old 26 Jul 2013, 21:56 (Ref:3282008)   #178
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...we'll happily continue speculating. I speculate that they fail in slowing down LMP2 enough to make ISC happy wrt the speeds, so they'll throw in another bus stop style chicane, further ruining the "track" and then you'll join me, Andy. Don't sweat it, we'll be having a toast sooner than you think
The bus stop chicane at Daytona, prompted by massive GTP tire failures on the banking, was designed to address a safety issue. The situation is similar to the need for the ACO to maintain a chicane on the Mulsanne Straight for the past 24 years.

I think the bus stop actually makes for a more interesting lap around the circuit, especially for an amateur racer in a Formula Ford or SCCA showroom stock car.

I would be delighted to toast you at the Rolex 24 next year, but it sounds like you won't be there.

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Old 26 Jul 2013, 22:04 (Ref:3282012)   #179
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Can't wait for the new series to come to Indy next year! The stands are PACKED for the race going on right now. I think I see upwards of 30 people in attendance.
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If you don't like it why are you watching it?

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Old 26 Jul 2013, 22:17 (Ref:3282016)   #180
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If you don't like it why are you watching it?

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The baseball game doesn't start until 7. But don't worry, I just turned off the onboard stream I was watching. I hope that's ok with you. I'll be sure to clear my other viewing decisions with you ahead of time in the future.
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Old 26 Jul 2013, 22:45 (Ref:3282023)   #181
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 00:04 (Ref:3282047)   #182
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...we'll happily continue speculating. I speculate that they fail in slowing down LMP2 enough to make ISC happy wrt the speeds, so they'll throw in another bus stop style chicane, further ruining the "track"
Safety > Anything else
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 00:31 (Ref:3282059)   #183
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"I guess many may wonder why I left Daytona off?" --- CyberMotor

That makes as much sense as the WEC dropping Le Mans.

So far, you are the only poster who has suggested dropping Daytona.

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Daytona is a lousy place to race sports cars, but it has been a lousy place to race sports cars for half-a-century. Becuase of the exploits of giants long ago, the track gets a shot at hosting the heros of today ... well, of next season.
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Maelochs, if you're waiting for the USCR to drop Daytona from the schedule next year - or any year after that - don't hold your breath.

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I won't be holding my breath either, but one may always hope.
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Can't wait for the new series to come to Indy next year! The stands are PACKED for the race going on right now. I think I see upwards of 30 people in attendance.
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The baseball game doesn't start until 7. But don't worry, I just turned off the onboard stream I was watching. I hope that's ok with you. I'll be sure to clear my other viewing decisions with you ahead of time in the future.
The axes go outside, gentlemen.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 01:42 (Ref:3282088)   #184
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The axes go outside, gentlemen.
Great how in every sort of discussion its own idea of one of the typical corollary of Godwin's Law comes along.
Whether it's one of the Scot[t]s (A/E) posting pictures of how losers have a sense of entitlement and winners embrace change, implying all the people who actually made their jobs possible in the first place where losers with a sense of entitlement, or whether it's now you putting an axe into the hands of those who dare and have an opposing opinion.

Read the forum poll/thread title and ask yourself: Isn't "drop daytona" a valid, on-topic opinion to be stated?!

You know what. Just for the sake of this meta-axe, I'll bury it now.

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Old 27 Jul 2013, 02:51 (Ref:3282099)   #185
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I hope today proved to some people why Indy DOES NOT belong on the USCR schedule.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 03:25 (Ref:3282102)   #186
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Funniest part of all this is AC Flinn attacking me for defending the choice of Daytona. He's a lot smoother than freeballin, but ... whatever dude.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 03:44 (Ref:3282105)   #187
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I hope today proved to some people why Indy DOES NOT belong on the USCR schedule.
Not the consensus of the drivers and teams I spoke to. Not to mention the fans or NASCAR.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 05:03 (Ref:3282130)   #188
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I hope today proved to some people why Indy DOES NOT belong on the USCR schedule.
Explain why please.

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Old 27 Jul 2013, 10:21 (Ref:3282214)   #189
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I wonder how many adults are actually in this thread... You guys rage and bicker like preschoolers.

Now excuse me while I actually act like a fan and not some entitled 5 year old. Sheesh...
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 10:53 (Ref:3282221)   #190
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I don't like Daytona road course (as most rovals) both from the TV-spectating point of view and as a simulation racer. But I must say, there's something very special about seeing different classes of sportscars running on that steep banking which almost makes up for the rest of the track. For that same reason lesser banked rovals like Indy GP course or worse Lauzsitsring are beyond tedious for me.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 12:28 (Ref:3282241)   #191
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Well folks, here is your answer for next year for Mosport.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/19...portscar-event

Well deserved. If any track deserves a race on this schedule, especially with all of the money invested, it's Mosport.
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Well folks, here is your answer for next year for Mosport.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/19...portscar-event

Well deserved. If any track deserves a race on this schedule, especially with all of the money invested, it's Mosport.
It certainly is fantastic news ...even if it is a week old.
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Old 27 Jul 2013, 13:47 (Ref:3282261)   #193
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Main reason to drop Indy is the same reason Rolex dropped Homestead ... no one know, or cares, or shows for the race.

Besides which most rovals are too much riding around on ovals and not enough turns. The limitation of having to squeeze everything into the infield can lead to some deadly dull (Daytona) tracks.

The positive is that fans can see so much from the bleachers. The reality is that the bleachers are about totally empty.
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