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View Poll Results: who's too bad?
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Sato
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3 |
8.33% |
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Bernoldi
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0% |
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Panis
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0% |
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De La Rosa
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2.78% |
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Yoong
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27 |
75.00% |
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Webber
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0% |
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McNish
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2.78% |
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Irvine
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8.33% |
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Massa
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0% |
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live and let survive!(?)
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2.78% |
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27 Jul 2002, 22:43
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who's not good enough to be in f1 this year and will be out?
yoong,sato,bernoldi and de la rosa will be out of the grade next year
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28 Jul 2002, 04:25
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dunno who is going to be out next year but talking about skills you shouldn't have included webber, panis, massa, bernoldi, etc on this poll
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28 Jul 2002, 08:27
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Sato has the worst results.
But he certainly deserves another chance.
Yoong should leave F1.
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28 Jul 2002, 09:19
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Yoong is the only driver who is unequivocably incompetant and doesn't belong in F1. Bernoldi has been solid enough, certainly made Jos look pretty inept last year, and in terms of close quarters racing he can pull of some strong form.
Irvine, in my opinion, has perhaps had his day, although I respect his ability and like his approach to racing. De la Rosa's form against Irvine proves that he is good enough for f1.
Sato is a driver who I had my doubts about initally after some of his poorer showings, especialyl as he is in the seat which rightfully is Justin Wilson's, but in the last few races he has shown some real form and looks to be getting to grips with the Formula 1 cars.
McNish's place is certainly under threat though. Maybe if he'd've got into F1 10 years ago it would've been a different story, but he really isn't showing the kind of form that makes him a sensible long term choice given that he only has around 5 years left in top line racing.
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28 Jul 2002, 09:24
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Alex Yoong should try something more apt for his skills eg. a Dodgem car.
Sato has talent, and now finally he is showing some signs of speed. Felipe Massa too hasnt shown his talent. I am not convinced.
McNish has been mediocre, De La Rosa is OK, Bernoldi is decent for a pay driver. Webber and Panis are both pretty good actually.
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28 Jul 2002, 09:29
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Yoong. All the rest are pretty good.
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28 Jul 2002, 09:41
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Yoong for certain, but Sato can better stay on the tarmac for a while or he will be out too.
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28 Jul 2002, 10:36
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28 Jul 2002, 10:40
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If Yoong goes (as he should, and is rumoured to be) who will be Minardi's main sponser? Can't see Kualu Lumpa staying on when the isn't a Maylasian in the car!
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28 Jul 2002, 10:47
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Yoong is gone probably.
McNish is not bad but everyone seems to be rumoured for his seat.
Sato may be back to testing role
Massa... I dunno
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28 Jul 2002, 11:36
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Yoong probably won't see the season out.....
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28 Jul 2002, 13:48
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Yoong is History. I would be surprised to see him in a F1 car again.
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28 Jul 2002, 14:03
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Yoong will be gone as soon as Stoddard finds someone else to fund the team.
Sato will be out as soon as Eddie Jordan decides on a Briton to replace him. Seems like it won't be Justin Wilson. Button's signed already...
Irvine I see retiring.
Villeneuve... Gah, don't ask me, I don't want to think about it. _No_ good options there. Got out-raced by Panis again this weekend, even Sato passed him. Light a fire under his arse, and he's still F1 quality, but I don't think he even wants to race anymore.
Bernouldi will be around as long as his sponsors hold out.
Massa made a few good moves this weekend, but he'll be judged on his performances throughout the season... And things don't look good right now.
A sensible team principal would let both McNish and Salo go... They've both been driving like slugs! And with drivers of the calibre of Frentzen, Webber and Christiano DaMatta looking for rides next year (along with dozens of F3/F3000 drivers who are hot enough to pop corn at 10 meters, including some Americans), they've really got no excuse.
Last edited by Lee Janotta; 28 Jul 2002 at 14:06.
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28 Jul 2002, 15:49
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Sato is not a bad driver and deserves to stay, but mopst likely will be forced out of the seat.
Bernoldi will be in F1 as long as his sponsers stay with him, maybe a move to Minardi?
Panis is good enough to stay, but most likely will rather find a lower car, or probably not take a testing role because he wouldn't get back into the main circuit again
De La Rosa is okay, I mean he hasn't really shown any flashes of brilliance, but the car is also bad, he'll be replaced after next year
Yoong should be gone and will be after this season(I hope)
Webber deserves to be in this sport and deserves a better ride, hes shown that with a bad car(Minardi) he can score points
McNish just was in the wrong place at the wrong time, someone that is the scapegoat for Toyotas problems, hes not bad but I don't think deserves to stay
Massa is a good talent but needs to fine tune his skills like Sato, but his last couple of races have shown that he can be a good driver, but will most likely be forced out
Irvine, lord knows, I like Irvine because he is outspoken but he should retire, if Jordan picks him up I'll be suprised, but who knows I think hes at the point in his career where hes been at the peak and will stay in the valley for the rest of his F1 career(though I hope not)
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28 Jul 2002, 15:59
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I know Sato is'nt a bad driver(I saw him win the masters F3 last year),but he needs to stay on the track more and stop making mistakes, at least he did that today.
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