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18 Aug 2002, 14:38
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BAR, Jordan and Honda
We know now that BAR will be exclusive with Honda next year. I wonder if BAR will suddenly seem faster than the Jordan for the rest of the year. After all BAR and Honda are now deep into the development of the 2003 car. Will Honda give all the latest updates of the motor to Jordan? Or will they go out of their way to collect more points that Jordan. After all there are fringe benefits associated with having more points. It will also make the decision seems a bit wiser!
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18 Aug 2002, 14:44
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I think BAR will improve next year (unfortuantely). Jordan will be shut out for the rest of this season.
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18 Aug 2002, 14:49
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To be honest I think BAR can't get much worse, they will improve next year but massively IMO.
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18 Aug 2002, 14:52
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Sorry that should be NOT massively
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18 Aug 2002, 17:09
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I think that BAR has a chance to improve massively for next year. But I agree with neilap; its likely that Jordan's form will fade towrd the end of the season, and maybe BAR will benefit. However, I suspect that Jordan will have incentive to to show Honda that they were wrong.
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18 Aug 2002, 18:29
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It will be good to see next year. The season is not even over and I am already impatiently awaiting Australia. I think Honda will have to cease any development that they might have in store for Jordan. I dont think they want to drop any hints to them of what they intend to do for next year.
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18 Aug 2002, 20:58
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How long will BAR be called BAR? I'll give it until 2004. Then we'll see a Honda (prepared by Prodrive) lining up on the grid. 
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19 Aug 2002, 01:39
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Jordan has one great advantage over BAR...Fisichella!
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19 Aug 2002, 07:39
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He is special, isn't he?
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19 Aug 2002, 08:47
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pound for pound he's better than that jpm fellow.
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19 Aug 2002, 10:37
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I would've thought maybe Jordan will get the more experimental stuff from Honda first, when they're less sure of its reliability or drivability (of course FIsichella in an undrivable car is as good as Villeneueve in a drivable one (BARs ahve never been any better than 'drivable')), basically usign Jordan as guinea pigs.
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19 Aug 2002, 13:54
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David Richards has already stated that the team will be re-badged next year - an expensive image change is on the cards, BAT have agreed to it, and I'd assume it means we'll see a works Honda team on the grid.
I wouldn't like to insinuate anything, but if Jordan didn't have very good engines, and therefore not much hope for next season, they might like to find another engine supplier. If Honda wanted to have a works team, they would have to get rid of Jordan, who don't want to sell out...hmm?
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19 Aug 2002, 15:12
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Total-F1
[B]David Richards has already stated that the team will be re-badged next year - an expensive image change is on the cards, BAT have agreed to it, and I'd assume it means we'll see a works Honda team on the grid.
If this is true it is great news for Honda fanatics! Ok its great news for me (there I said it). Now Honda will not be able to blame a bad chassis nor BAR a weak motor. It will be a complete team effort.
EJ does not want to lose any decision making power in HIS team. We have to respect his courage. He also has done really well to secure a deal like this, considering many thought he was in financial distress.
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19 Aug 2002, 21:50
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I think BAR will now move foreward, probably a step improvement next year. However, I also think Jordan will improve. So will Renault, and I think it will all be at the expense of Sauber.
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20 Aug 2002, 08:46
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I doubt whether Honda and BAR will be anywhere near the top next season - they will improve from this season - because they cant get any worse - but it wont be massive. Im confident that the Ford/Cosworth engines are better than the Hondas and if Jaguar and Jordan can come up with halfway decent chassis - then BAR will finish behind those 2 teams as well.
My advice to Jacques would be to get the hell away frrom BAR and Honda cos neither of them are going anywhere fast.
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