Karts on a Hillclimb???

[Stuart Hill]

There seems to be some interest in possibly Hillclimbing Karts, mmmm could we? and I was wondering what is needed for a venue to obtain a Kart License?

As a marshal, I would love to watch Karts take on the hills and so look forward to possibly making it happen.

anyone know the regs???

[Maisie]

Why start another thread? It would be more helpful to stick to the original thread so that the person who posed the question originally gets the benefit of your knowledge?

[Stuart Hill]

Originally posted by Maisie
Why start another thread? It would be more helpful to stick to the original thread so that the person who posed the question originally gets the benefit of your knowledge?

I have done done so Maisie (and elsewhere) to try and cover all bases and so facilitate a constructive reply. I work on the principle:

The more people get asked, the more answers I may get.

[Malc's]

I vaguely recall something about electric karts doing demo runs at Curborough a few years back and BARC also had a competition Land Rover sprinting at one meeting once it was defined as a car and not a commercial vehicle. It was quick too.

[EvilPumpkin]

Is there actually a separate licence required? I've been at motorsport events that had cars and karts as well - I didn't realise a special licence was required?

Is this for everything or just for hill climbs?

IIRC Steve and Jackie Tarrant would be our resident kart experts?

[Steve Tarrant]

Hi all

Yes, a separate MSA kart licence would be required before they could run on the venue, and that would also mean a further visit by the MSA Safety executive to view the venue for the suitability of karts (protection, runoffs, etc) before a safety licence could be issued to the venue first before they could apply for a race permit.

Certainly the 250cc gearbox karts would certainly give the cars a run for their money!!!!!!

Hope this helps


Steve

[JimW]

I'm sure I recall a kart or two running at a hill some years ago. :confused:

Or perhaps it was a car using kart wheels (because I remember that there was some controversy about that). :confused:

Anyway what is the definition of a kart? Is it the lack of a sprung suspension or would that allow tractors in?

Regards

Jim

[wookiee]

I thought that karts were defined as powered roller skates?

[ghinzani]

Thanks for that info Steve - I'm going to mail the Gurston organisers anyway to raise the subject. What the entyr fee for hillclimbs? that also might be a stumbling point as 30 quid gets us three heats and a final at most places we race.

[Superliner II]

I thought that karts were defined as powered roller skates?

My powered roller skate has power to weight ratio of 175 bhp/ton, Rotax 125cc (three times what your car is i bet)
Others have up to 450 bhp/ton, Superkarts 250cc. These will comfortable see off every single seater race car up to F3000 and then some around most of the main tracks in the world.

On topic my partner and i, among others, are very enthusiastic about running our Karts on a hill climb. I am sure that i could convince many others too because i know that we are not the first to ask the question among ourselves. Beware though our Karts will put many of the cars entered in hillclimb events to shame

Hillclimbing tractors, Hmmm i know a few people with some seriously modified farm machinery that may well be interested in that

[Richard Sneader]

On one of the Havoc videos there is footage of Karts doing one of the hills. I do not know what there requirments were or what licences were needed.
RS

[glyn parham]

Back in the 1973 I remember watching in awe at the antics of the Motus, climbing Prescott at ridiculous speed, surely that was a kart!

[ghinzani]

Didnt the Motus have wood in it or was that the s2000?

[Woolley]

Phil Jeffries used to run a trackstar, basically a modifired(?) kart before the MSA banned it. Inititally it was done on wheelbase, but he simply hung a spare pair of wheels off the back. Some other way of doing away with it was found. The only thing more frightening than when it was going was the couple of times it stopped suddently, fortunately without harm.Karl Scholar drives a Spectre which appears to be a kart with bodywork/spaceframe

[Gizmo]

There is a guy who regularly competes a Kart on the Val Des Terres hill on Guernsey...and beats most others !!!