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Old 24 Nov 2003, 17:09   #91
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Fab, I think your opinion is the good one for someone seeing it only as a Le Mans Fan. It just doesn't have to be seen that way to appreciate it a bit.
I'm planing to see it again tomorrow, and this time I'll try to forget everything I know about Le Mans
The good approach, definitely ; I was not "receptive" enough to watch it that way ; I have to precise that we're entering now the dreadfull period of the year, not any race of any sort, no news, no nothing. I'll be depressed and negative 'till at least Daytona now !

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You want nice and authentic shootings of motor racing ?

Just look MV .... Yes Michel Vaillant !!!!


I'm not totally insane... I'm just speaking of "Michel Vaillant" the TV serie broadcast in the early/mid 60's.

All the cars are real, MV don't win all the race, He didn't ever win Le Mans !!!

But most of cars were shoot durung real races and a lot of pilots and car moguls appeared along the only 13 episodes: Henri Grandsire (It's MV), Jose Rosinski, Stirling Moss (just an appearance), Amédée Gordini, Enzo Ferrari himself, Jo Schlesser, Bob Bondurant, etc...

A must-see, unfortunately only available in french and in Zone 2-DVD

Sounds cool! But are there any subtitles in english or german?
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Sounds cool! But are there any subtitles in english or german?
Not sure ! Check on Amazone.com, if the DVD is available. Well, it should for X-mas !
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Sorry no subtitle (I didn't need them so I gonna check that point during midday)...

It's a 2 DVD-Box and it costs only 30.99 Euros on the FNAC stores
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It's a 2 DVD-Box and it costs only 30.99 Euros on the FNAC stores
Which is http://www.fnac.com/

I bought from them before so they should supply to the UK.

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yes, but it's 6 euros cheaper in store than online !!!
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Sorry no subtitle (I didn't need them so I gonna check that point during midday)...

It's a 2 DVD-Box and it costs only 30.99 Euros on the FNAC stores
Darn, looks like i have to learn french after all...
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Darn, looks like i have to learn french after all...
Just watch the movie and listen the sounds, it speaks by itself !

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Right sorry to drag this out of the depths, but I bought the double DVD edition in the summer - watched it recently and realised it is so incredibly well shot, the cinematography is incredible, the sound track is very strong (earlier comments about dodgy english dialogue are invalid - Archive ARE english!), the plot is as good as a mass market film gets, and the whole thing is very entertaining.

The makers of this film could teach a lot of lessons to people who think speed tribe is the be all and end all of film making. Don't expect a documentary on Le Mans - that ain't what it is - its a comic book tale thats very well done.

I'd rank this film up with Le Mans, above Grand prix even, and will ignore any comparison to driven - which is perhaps the worst film ever made.

The sound, shooting and casting are spot on. I highly reccomend it. What do I know about films - I used to review them for magazines... this would be a must have for my collection if it wasn't already in there.
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Hi praise indeed!

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That's good to have at least one fan of the movie... it was a huge flop in France.

And still one of my worst memory for a motion picture (just a question of taste, BTW, not a general point of view ; the footage is really impressive. But the story means nothing to me, when I'm a real Michel Vaillant comic books' fan on the other hand, especially the old ones - 60').

ss_collins' opinion should lead you to try it, after all we might find more fans around !

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Blimey, I didn't realised the thread was so old !
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this may be the difference - I being english have never read michel valliante
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Were they never printed in the UK? I do know they've been translated to a lot of languages. I also remember a interview with the late Michaele Alboreto in wich he said that "his children didn't realize that their daddy was famous untill they saw him drawn in a Michel Vaillant comic".
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The makers of this film could teach a lot of lessons to people who think speed tribe is the be all and end all of film making. Don't expect a documentary on Le Mans - that ain't what it is - its a comic book tale thats very well done.
Objection, your Honour.
This thing has nothing to do, in fact, in substance, or in spirit, NOTHING to do with the MV comic books. It introduces characters that simply don't exist in the books; it portraits the existing characters wrongly; and unlike the books, it is ludicrously inaccurate when it comes to depicting racing itself. I have no explanation as to how Graton could have sanctioned this mess of a storyboard for a movie based on his life's work; maybe he needed the money. At least that would be an excuse.
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