Update

RAP · 26 Oct 2004, 11:07

Mike Lawrence's book on March says that 16 703 F3 cars were built. I have tried to identify them but only come up with 14. These are, with approx first date of racing, -
David Morgan 27 March
Edward Reeves 30 March
Geoff Bremner 5 April - later entered by Team March - different car?
Eifelland x 4 19 April - drivers in year included W Duetsch, H Werner, H Ertl, W v Bulow, F Pesch, M Mohr, K Enders, D Sommer, W Brohel
Peter Deal 26 April
Edvard Jacobsen 26 April
Leif Hallgren 26 April?
Rudy Gygax/Team Midland 9 May
Michel Dupont/Ecurie la Meute 17 May
Team March - Tom Walkinshaw 6 June
Tean March - Ian Ashley June.
Tm March cars driven later in year by Colin Vandervell and Cyd Williams + once by Dick Barker.
Of the other two, the obvious answers are either replacements for write off of perhaps Team March have more than two.

Can anyone help? Chassis numbers would at least narrow things down if any one has them.
RAP

Adam Ferrington · 26 Oct 2004, 12:00

RAP,

Here are the 703s, as listed in March's records :-

Chassis no, Frame No, Customer, Engine, Delivery Date, Colour
703-1 AM70-34 Works/Ian Ashley (No Engine) 3/6/70 Red & White
(703-1)AM70-39 Works Ian Ashley Replacement Frame Crashed at Mallory (Raced only once - Written off 26/7/70)
(703-1)AM70-25 rebuilt as replacement frame for Works/Ashley
703-2 AM70-31 Works/Petnoyer Tom Walkinshaw (No Engine)3/6/70 Petnoyer Colours
(703-2)AM70-36 Works/Petnoyer Replacement Frame Crashed at Snetterton
703-3 AM70-10 Eifelland Holbay R70-705 14/4/70 (No colour)
703-4 AM70-12 Ed Reeves Holbay 27/3/70 Blue
703-5 AM70-14 Gygax Novamotor 15/4/70 Blue
703-6 AM70-13 Eddy Jacobson Novamotor (No Del.Date) Blue
703-7 AM70-11 Halligran Holbay R70-760 27/3/70 Orange
703-9 AM70-26 Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White
703-10 AM70-24 Willy Deutsch/Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White
703-11 AM70-15 Jeff Bremner Lucas (ex March) 27/3/40 Green
703-13 AM70-30 Dave Morgan Felday 25/4/70 White
703-14 AM70-28 Dupont (No Engine, Delivery Date or Colour)
703-15 AM70-32 (Not Sold) Green
703-16 AM70-29 Peter Deal Lucas 25/4/70 Red
703-17 AM70-25 Harald Ertl/Eifelland (No Engine) 15/4/70 White (Note - rebuilt into Petnoyer 703-1)
(703-17)AM70-38 Eifelland Replacement Frame Crashed by Harald Ertl (Del?) 11/7/70
703-18 AM70-18 Eifeland Holbay R70-757 15/5/70 White

So there were 16 cars with nos 8 and 12 not used.
Note that even in mid-1970 March had already started rebuilding "written-off" frames/tubs (see 703-1 above).

Hope this clarifies things.

RAP · 26 Oct 2004, 13:19

Wow! What a response. Thanks you very much indeed Adam. Any chance you could do the same for 713S / 713M as I was about to do a similar summary (promise I won't ask for any more !!)
RAP

Adam Ferrington · 26 Oct 2004, 14:42

RAP,

I'll try to post the 713s tomorrow.

Chris Townsend · 26 Oct 2004, 15:15

Adam

I'm awe struck. Right down to the frames!
You don't by chance have 733s? The Atlantic records would benefit from recording Mr Brise's Bardahl car!

Chris

Adam Ferrington · 26 Oct 2004, 17:30

Chris,

Don't thank me, thank some lonely sole keeping records at Bicester when all around him were wheeling/dealing/fiddling!

The problem is there are large gaps in the copies I have (all 1972, most Atlantic cars) and the level of detail/format of the records varies.........but

Brise's 733 was 21 (in this case only 13 of the 26 chassis built are identified by customer).

Chris Townsend · 26 Oct 2004, 18:22

Adam

Yes, you wonder who they might have employed as a book keeper.
Just how they kept pace in later seasons would be an interesting story!
What Atlantic records do you have?

Chris

Adam Ferrington · 26 Oct 2004, 18:47

Chris,

Unfortunately amongst what I have there are no separate lists for any of the Atlantic/FB models, other than the 705s. The copies concentrate on F1, F2 and F3 (and there are significant gaps in these) - no sports cars either.

Adam Ferrington · 27 Oct 2004, 16:56

Richard,

March 713s as promised :-

March 713S (March's list say 9 built)
1 AM71-2 Test car then James Hunt (No date/Colour)
(1)AM71-14 Replacement Chassis for James Hunt (Crash Goodwood 5/3/71) 1/4/71
2 AM71-5 Show Car to Eifelland/Helmut .... Less Engine 13/3/71 No colour
3 AM71-3 Eifelland Less Engine 11/3/71 No colour
4 AM71-10 Zitzen Holbay Engine 3/4/71 Silver
5 AM71-9 Eifelland/Erwin .... Less engine 12/3/71 No colour
6 AM71-13 Eifelland Less Engine 19/3/71 No colour
7 No No. Eifelland with Engine 29/3/71 No colour
8 AM71-16 Eifelland with engine 5/4/71 ? No colour

March 713M (March's list says 11 built)
1 No No. Eifelland/Hannelore (Werner) No date White
2 AM71-7 McIntosh-Reid 16/2/71 Blue
3 No No. Roger Williamson 3/3/71 Red
4 No No. Tim Goss 12/3/71 Yellow
5 No No. Cavin Riley No date Silver Blue
6 No No. John Bisignano 11/5/71 Midnight Blue
7 No No. M.R.E. 17/5/71 Red/White
8 No No. James Hunt No date or Colour
9 No No. Brendan McInerney 17/6/71 Blue

If 11 were built then it would take a process of elimination to work out which the other two were.
I think McIntosh-Reid was Tom Walkinshaw's Ecurie Ecosse car.

RAP · 27 Oct 2004, 19:40

Thank you very much Adam. A couple of observations/questions.

713S - in July 71 BOTH Lee Kaye (entrant Peter Bloore) and David Morgan appeared together at a couple of meetings eg 1st Aug Thruxton. One was almost certainly the ex Hunt car but what of the other? The Morgan car is sometimes shown as a 713M.

713M By early September there seem to have been 10, maybe 11 cars active On the weekend of 12th per F1R Fact Book -
At Crystal Palace (most also at Brands next day) - Hunt, McInerney, Williamson, Walkinshaw (dna), Bisignano, Spitzley, Goss, MacDonald, Riley. Bond was entered at Brands but dna but he raced on both the preceding and subsequent weekends. The Walkinshaw car does not seem to have run after mid August, just about when both Spitzley and MacDonald appear so I guess one of these would be Walkinshaw's. So that looks like 9 cars active in UK. (+ P Bloore 713S) By the end of October Hurst is also out in a 713M so this makes 10 entered for 24 Oct Brands.(Hunt, McInerney, Hurst, Williamson, Bisignano, Bond, Goss, Spitzley, Riley. Macdonald)

You have one for Eifeland and certainly there are occaisionl entries for German drivers over the course of the year including a Dietmar Floehr who was a dna at Brands 24 Oct. One final mystery is that the Fact Book has both Floehr and Freddy Link at Monza in 713M but at Brands 24 Oct Link is shown as 712M I suspect this correct.

So, we have 9 for sure but probably 10 in UK + the German car.

Chris Townsend · 27 Oct 2004, 20:39

The Dave Morgan 713 was 713S-1, used in F3 and Atlantic, then on to Mike Wilds in 72 and early season 73. Last known user [by me] Mark Pritchard in F4 in 1976.

Bond's car is 713M-10, the number given in an Autosport race report on the car's debut in August

The Walkinshaw car goes first to Chris Oates [not raced] then to John MacDonald, who kept it in 1972 [both AS and MN report the car as ex Walkinshaw]. Used by Nick Crossley early 73

I thought that Hurst took over the Bisignano car. Do they ever appear at the same race?

Adam Ferrington · 27 Oct 2004, 20:55

Richard,

F1R show a few chassis numbers in 1971 and 1972

They show Bev Bond in -10 at Oulton Park on 20/8/71 and Spiztley in -11 at Mallory Park on 29/5/72.
This would imply that Hurst's and MacDonald's cars were two of the first 9, resold.

I have a vague memory that Spitzley later (73-74) raced a 713M updated to 733 spec, with a chassis number 713M-7.
matbe he sold his own 713Min 72 and bought an updated one for 73 F3?

Chris Townsend · 27 Oct 2004, 21:19

Adam

My suspicion is that F1R is wrong! 11 is way too early in May if Bond doesn't appear in 10 until August. Spitzley raced a 713M in 1972 having tried to sell it over the close season 71-72. At the beginning of 73 the reference in the mags is to it being his regular F3 car, so I reckon it was 7 all along. [Though maybe they wouldn't have known the difference anyway...]

Chris

RAP · 27 Oct 2004, 22:10

" thought that Hurst took over the Bisignano car. Do they ever appear at the same race? "
Chris. I think you are right. Both are ENTERED for 24th Oct Brands. Hurstis 28th in Ht1 but Bisignano appears to be DNA. Hurst then races at Brands 31 Oct and Lydden 20 Nov but no further races by Bisignano F1R Fact book has Hurst in 713 at Chimay in May but I suspect this is wrong and should be 703.
Adam's reference to Spitzley in 713-11 is May 1972 not 1971 !!
From F1R we have
713M 1 Walkinshaw debut 21 March
713M 3 Williamson debut 14 Match
713M 4 Goss debut 21 March
713M 9 McInerney debut 18 June
713M 10 Bond debut 15 Aug
713M 11 Spitzley debut 11 Sept

jamesl · 27 Oct 2004, 22:32

Bev Bond switched to 713M-10 mid season after he finished with the Ensign team late July 1971.This car has been raced in recent years in HSCC, winning the the Classic F3 championship outright in 2003 and taking class honours in 2004 after Chris Levy ditched it 3/4 through the season to go URS FF2000.It now lives in Holland and races in the Dutch Monoposto series ( www.monoposto.nl ) Interesting enough, Bev Bond was reunited with his old car at Silverstone this summer where he was the guest of the classic F3 club.