Results from Brands

[Rod Birley]

No B finals run only A finals.

Stock Hatch 1St Grant Rees (race stopped due to accident at Langleys gap involving Don shannon amongst others)

Junior Minis: Ist Powis, 2nd Jordan, 3rd Greer

Supercar: 1st McClusky, 2nd Carnegie, 3rd Manning, 4th Nesbitt

Modified 1st Bellerby, 2nd Howlin, 3rd Binks, 4th Ward

Superfinal 1st Manning, 2nd McCluskey, 3rd Carnegie, 4th Nesbitt, 5th Howlin, 6th Binks, 7th Ward

Gollop and Doran both had dismal days (transmission and engine)

[ebby]

What was the standard like? Was the day an advertisent for our sport? I would like to know as I sadly couldn't make it

[Rod Birley]

Super modifieds were very good, although Mike Turpin had an unfortunate incident when a wheel came off. Bit of confusion over the re-start, initially only one car was allowed to run, but after a protest the others were allowed back in.Fair bit of contact in stock hatch, mainly at the first corner. Racing was good and very fast. Nesbitt was very impressive in Pat's Escort.

[winnie]

Really good days racing. No B finals due to run out of time and super final run in the dark, but they still found time to run the Brands Hatch rally cars with paying passengers between the finals - disgrace.

Doran threw a rod, Gollop broke diff.

Thank god Horsley is selling his car - his driving standards were same as usual.

[ebby]

Was it a good spectacle though?

[spottymarshal]

I believe it was, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Especially the Mini's and the Stock Hatch on both days.

Although the only thing that did spoil the racing was the Extra Blocks they put down tumbledown yesterday during the lunch break to stop Mr Palmer's grass getting damaged.

[ebby]

Good good well that's good for Rallycross then! Hopefully next weekend will raise the profile of the sport even more!

[King Arthur]

Just to put the record straight the Brands Hatch Rallycars did not have fair paying passengers the occupants were winners of competitions run by the Circuit and the first run was for 2 young boys who had never been to Rallycross. Their faces when they got out the cars was apleasure to see and I believe wee have 4 more converts to our sport. Please check the facts before branding something a disgrace. As a day I believe it was a great showcase of our sport. Let us hope next weekend continues the good show.

[Spectator]

Well done to all concerned. Big thanks to all the drivers, marshalls and everyone else concerned. Pity about the lack of finals today but there were plenty yesterday.

[ScottDay]

Can anyone E-Mail me a full set of results tonight at all, I was marshalling yesterday, but due to shift work could not do today!!

Cheers, Scott

[winnie]

Arthur, do you think it was right to sacrafice finals for the rides in the rally cars. The 5,000 or so paying public don't. If there had been any further incidents in any of the final that were run then the super final would not have taken place due to the loss of light. I just felt it wasn't right.

Apart from that the meeting was supurb and Nessbit looked really good especially the way he was throwing the car sideways at 140mph at end of main straight.

[King Arthur]

I hope this might clarify the situation.

No finals were cancelled on Sunday. Before any event a detailed timetable is produced and reviewed to ensure that in the time available the event can run with an ensurance that the Superfinal and A Finals can be run. In no other form of car sport do I know of a situation where the last race of the day is the most important ie the MSA Championship race. As an organisor of other catagories of racing you know that the last races of the day are at risk particularly as the evenings draw in and you cannot be sure what time it will stop being safe to race. Also the start time in the morning is not under our control so is therefore another factor to be worked within.

The Championship regulations - page 9 - 4.6 Finals sub section 4.6.1. says "There will be an A Final for the best eight drivers after qualifying in each of the Supercar, Modified, Stock Hatch and Minicross. The Organisers of each event may at his / her discretion run B finals for each of Supercar, Modified, Stock Hatch and Minicross.

There would therefore have been a need to run another 4 finals which would have taken around 40 minutes assuming no incidents / recoveries etc (each of which can take between 10 and 30 minutes depending upon the incedent. We would certainly have lost some of the A finals yesterday and that is cleraly not accetable to anybody.

It is easy to understand the frustration of those in the B final but the regulations are quite specific.

Alternatively, at this time of year (remembering we also lost an hour with the clocks changing) you reduce qualifying to 2 heats and give everybody entered a Final.

[Spectator]

As a fan who was at Brands from 8.30 yesterday I was wondering if anyone can answer this question. Is there a time before racing cannot start on a Sunday? Practice did not start until 10am and racing until almost 11.
At Lydden practice starts at 9am racing from 10 and the clocks are on summertime when these meetings are held

[Rod Birley]

Yes it is a planning rule, agreed with the local council, that no noise is allowed before 10 am on a Sunday at Brands Hatch. On any other day it is 9 am. At Lydden, on a Sunday, nothing can start until 12.30, which is why many clubs now look to run there on a Saturday or a bank holiday Monday. Everything has to finish at Lydden by 6 pm, whereas Brands can run until 6.30 pm (light permitting).

[Spectator]

Thanks for the info Rod. I thought it would be something like that and I was forgetting that Lydden is on Bank Holiday Monday.

[Elio]

Sacrificing finals for rides in rally school cars??? Rrrrrrrrrrubbish!!!!

There were just 2 batches of a handful of laps - not enough time to run a single final I`dve thought - let alone 5 rounds of "B" finals!!!!

[Spectator]

Must agree with Elio
They only filled in time while broken down cars were recovered and maybe delayed things for about one lap at the most. It was better than looking at an empty track as you normally have to. Took less time than the twice re-run final heat of super-modified.

[Matti Alamaki]

Did Don Shannon do much damage when he rolled his Saxo in the Final? Dare I ask who gave him a tap?

Also who collected Horsleys car?

[Spectator]

Did hear a rumour it could be 745

[Matti Alamaki]

That would explain Adrians new colour scheme!

[bigted]

Yes it was Mr Green, and his face was a picture when Adrian crashed it in to the barrier in the first set of heats!

[Spectator]

Does anyone know what Adrian is going to be doing next year, or have we lost another one? He would do well in super modified!!

[Elio]

I have a nice photo sequence of the Shannon crash (and build up to it) but seeing as we can`t post pics these days I have no way of showing it!! (don`t have a website either).

Horsley was pushing Jamie Lea all the way down from the exit of Druids to Langleys Gap. Lea spent most of the approach to Langleys Gap hard on the brakes desperately trying to lock the car over to the left as Horsley`s pushing was "nerfing" Lea`s car over to the right.

Since both missed the apex to Langleys Gap Green dived inside them, but behind, Shannon (presumably seeing an opportunity to pass the recovering Horsley and Lea) seemingly took too much kerb on the entry to Langleys Gap and flipped it all by himself. Julian Godfrey was immediately behind Shannon but I don`t think was making any contact.

As for the car, it certainly had a lot of panel damage!

[Roundy Mooney]

Adrian Horsley (Redcar) who won both the Yokohama Stock Hatch class and overall Championships was classified in eighth place after an incident in the Stock Hatch A Final which was halted after three of the four laps when Don Shannon (Ballymoney) rolled his Citroen Saxo.

After all his little incidents this year I don't think many of the modified lads would like to see him in with them !!hrug:

[Matti Alamaki]

Originally posted by Elio
I have a nice photo sequence of the Shannon crash (and build up to it) but seeing as we can`t post pics these days I have no way of showing it!! (don`t have a website either).

Horsley was pushing Jamie Lea all the way down from the exit of Druids to Langleys Gap. Lea spent most of the approach to Langleys Gap hard on the brakes desperately trying to lock the car over to the left as Horsley`s pushing was "nerfing" Lea`s car over to the right.

Since both missed the apex to Langleys Gap Green dived inside them, but behind, Shannon (presumably seeing an opportunity to pass the recovering Horsley and Lea) seemingly took too much kerb on the entry to Langleys Gap and flipped it all by himself. Julian Godfrey was immediately behind Shannon but I don`t think was making any contact.

As for the car, it certainly had a lot of panel damage!

Could Rxie or anyone else host these photos for Elio, would love to see them!