Photos, 30 odd years ago in the land of Oz

[Bob Riebe]

I love the sedan pony car pictures Frederick!

Tasmania, is that on the border between South Dakota and Nebraska?
Bob

[Bruce Moxon]

Bob, that Mustang is one of the four Trans-Am cars built by Kar-Kraft. It's a pretty important bit of kit, over here. Allan Moffat had an almost unbelievable record in that car - and nobody else has ever raced it.

And Tasmania is about that cold, yes!



Bruce Moxon

[Bob Riebe]

Originally Posted by Bruce Moxon

Bob, that Mustang is one of the four Trans-Am cars built by Kar-Kraft. It's a pretty important bit of kit, over here. Allan Moffat had an almost unbelievable record in that car - and nobody else has ever raced it.

And Tasmania is about that cold, yes!
Bruce Moxon

Ole' Moffy made a bit of a name over here too, and that Mustang, for what ever reason, I find more appealing than all the TA Mustang's over here.

Sadly someone over here bought Bob Jane's '68 car and "restored" (to me a better word is ofen butchered) it back to an earlier configuration, with far less history.
I loved the huge fender flares it had before it was "restored"

I spoke with Joe Chamberlain, who sold one of his cars down-under, last year.
I wanted to do a free-lance article on his Corvettes he ran here but time and money often hate writing.
I am going to see if I cannot give it another shot this year.
Gods'speed
Bob

PS-If I get financially solvent again,I am going to come down there some summer when it is 100 degrees in the shade up here and cool off.
Nothing can beat a nice sunny 10 below morining with the sun glistening off a fresh snow, except a sunny 10 above morning....

[Steve Holmes]

Bob, Joe Chamberlain came to New Zealand on at least a couple of occasions in the '70s. First came at the end of 1970, and bought with him a Trans-Am '69 Camaro, which he sold here.

Then he came back two years later with another '69 model Trans-Am Camaro. Car was painted up like one of the Trans-Am AMC Javelins, and sponsored for its NZ races by American Airlines. Its a long shot, but do you know if that second car stayed here, or went back to the USA with him? During that time it was very popular for visiting race drivers to bring over an old car, and sell it to one of the locals to help pay for the holiday.

[Bob Riebe]

Originally Posted by Steve Holmes

Bob, Joe Chamberlain came to New Zealand on at least a couple of occasions in the '70s. First came at the end of 1970, and bought with him a Trans-Am '69 Camaro, which he sold here.

Then he came back two years later with another '69 model Trans-Am Camaro. Car was painted up like one of the Trans-Am AMC Javelins, and sponsored for its NZ races by American Airlines. Its a long shot, but do you know if that second car stayed here, or went back to the USA with him? During that time it was very popular for visiting race drivers to bring over an old car, and sell it to one of the locals to help pay for the holiday.

He brought the second car back and used it to make a run for the Trans-Am Cat. I championship, in 1976.
He built his first Corvette in 1977.

Bob

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Sadly someone over here bought Bob Jane's '68 car and "restored" (to me a better word is ofen butchered) it back to an earlier configuration, with far less history.
I loved the huge fender flares it had before it was "restored"


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Bob.
I keep hearing this car is in a museum: do you know who & where.

[Aysedasi]

Great pictures and even greater knowledge here........

[Steve Holmes]

Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

He brought the second car back and used it to make a run for the Trans-Am Cat. I championship, in 1976.
He built his first Corvette in 1977.

Bob

Thanks Bob. Well that's one mystery solved.

Re the Bob Jane Mustang, I have a photo of that car in either the Fast Fords, or Fast Mustangs book as it was, with the flared wheelarches. The car seemed in very original condition, but Jane never raced it with those flares like that, to the best of my knowledge. I'm wondering if they were fitted later in the cars life, perhaps for Sports Sedan competition by a later owner.

[cavvy]

I understood the car went from Bob Jane Racing to Bob Stevens in Sydney,
Was it a Gr2 car?

[Bob Riebe]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Bob.
I keep hearing this car is in a museum: do you know who & where.

There is a Mustang site (some day I will learn to take the time an save to disk my 'puter info so I do not lose itr everytime my 'puter craps on me) that says, just what you asked.
I have time so I will see if I can dig it up.

Steve:
I have the same Fast Fords and bound copies of an Austaralian Motor Racing mag. annual.
I am pretty sure the big fenders were added for Sports Sedan racing, I will see if it is shown in the years I have in my annuals.
Bob

[Chris - Melb]

I have received Frederick's photos, but I have not had a chance to scan them yet as I have had major computer problems. In fact I have just handed my new computer back to the computer store!

Steve, Sorry for the slow response, but I have not had time to look at the forum for months. This is how Bob Jane's Mustang basically looked during the entire time he raced it: http://members.tripod.com/motorsport...stang1_web.jpg

The flared guards were originally an inch or two longer for the first few races, but that's all. I would have thought the car landed in the country with the flares.

Any other flares you have seen would have been added in the Bob Stevens Sports Sedan era of the car.

Bruce, I would have thought the Bowin FF pic was John Wright as It doesn't have Grace Bros livery.

Regards,
Chris.

[Amonfan]

I'll throw one out of left feild and say the Bowin P4 is none other than John Smith

[kramer]

I think it's too early to be John Smith. Didn't he become prominent a couple of years later? And John Wright was a couple of years later again - 1978 or so.

I think it's a Grace Bros car - that looks like the diamond emblem behind the number on the front of the car. Wish we could get answers!



Kramer

[Amonfan]

Im pretty positive its John Smith circa 1977, fortunately i have a similar pic in RCN from the same era so ive kinda cheated, lol. I had initially thought John avis who drove the car in 1976. John Wright took over the car in 1978. Seems the car liked John's

[kramer]

Okay. I was going by gut feel - so you're most likely right.

Still, great photos and great memories. I've got a whole lot of RCNs in boxes - must get them out and see if they are all right.


Kramer