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9 Jan 2005, 14:31
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Most virtuoso effort in sportcar racing
We seem to be having a few best of, favourite, etc threads right now.
Here's one, but focussing on the human side as opposed to the materiel side- what is the best ever piece of driving / teamwork you've seen in sportscar racing? Could be a pole lap, a single stint, a miraculous climb through the field, comeback from the dead etc, etc.
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9 Jan 2005, 14:41
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Hans Stuck, under a heavy rain, during the 1980 Le Mans 24 Hours, with his BMW M1, in the early stages. He went through the field to 2nd place, very, very impressively.
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9 Jan 2005, 14:58
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A couple of suggestions. Jackie Ickx/Derek Bell Porsche climb through the field after an early major delay, to win Le Mans but I forget which year of their wins it was. .... (someone? Thank you).
Didn't Masten Gregory/Jochen Rindt do the same in a Ferrari 330 GTO but in the 50s/60s? Just drove flat out after early problems but couldn't kill the car.
Or in the Finnish laddie in the wet during the night in McLaren F1's 24 Hour win-first-time-out in 95? Huge speed in the wet with a car without much downforce.
Or Duncan Hamilton/Tony Rolt in the D-Type. Weren't they all ****ed up about to go home after a serious cock-up in practise?
All pretty heroic.
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9 Jan 2005, 15:02
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Stefan Bellof. Nordschleife. 6:11min.
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9 Jan 2005, 15:07
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Originally Posted by gfm
Didn't Masten Gregory/Jochen Rindt do the same in a Ferrari 330 GTO but in the 50s/60s? Just drove flat out after early problems but couldn't kill the car.
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The year was 1965, the car was a NART entered 250LM. The quote I always heard, and I don't know which driver it was attributed to, was 'It didn't feel like a 24 Hour car, so we didn't treat it that way.' In other words they were just thumping the car to try to get it to break so they could go home early. Everyone else had problems while they screamed into the lead. I am not sure winning because you beat the car to death and it survived puts it into the great drives category, but that is up to history and others I guess. 
Hans Stuck's drives just about anywhere would have to go into great drives category.
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9 Jan 2005, 15:19
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Bob Tullius' glorious lap in the lead at Le Mans 1984 from a purely romantic perspective, but I think the Works Porsche effort at Le Mans 1987 was pretty special - 1 car down after qualifying, the second car out early on. The team took the fight to the Jags and broke them all. Okay the last few hours were pretty dull, but Singer and Falk gambled big-time and won.
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9 Jan 2005, 16:23
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Originally Posted by claude
Hans Stuck, under a heavy rain, during the 1980 Le Mans 24 Hours, with his BMW M1, in the early stages. He went through the field to 2nd place, very, very impressively.
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I already mentionned that one one or two years ago... Henri Pescarolo said that somebody too k him over under the pouring rain, without healigths, a white arrow.... next curve, he was already gone !
It was Hans Stuck...
The same Henri, without whippers, under the showers again... in 1968 ? Quite something too...
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9 Jan 2005, 16:36
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NART entered 250LM.
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DOH!!!! It was a 275LM!!! Sorry! 
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9 Jan 2005, 18:50
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Too many to choose from, but off the top of my head, J.J. Lehto in the KKK McLaren in the wet at Le Mans in 1995 - he gave everyone else a driving lesson.......
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9 Jan 2005, 19:44
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Too many to choose from, but off the top of my head, J.J. Lehto in the KKK McLaren in the wet at Le Mans in 1995 - he gave everyone else a driving lesson.......
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I agree Aysedasi, that's the one I couldn't remember the name of. He beat the Bells in the Harrod's McLaren from some way back didn't he? Quite a virtuoso performance/drive.
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9 Jan 2005, 19:49
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A couple of suggestions. Jackie Ickx/Derek Bell Porsche climb through the field after an early major delay, to win Le Mans but I forget which year of their wins it was. .... (someone? Thank you).
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If your thinking of the same race that I am that would be 1977.
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9 Jan 2005, 20:05
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If your thinking of the same race that I am that would be 1977.
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In 77 Ickx was teamed up with Haywood and Barth, not Bell 
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9 Jan 2005, 20:45
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I have to say JJ at Le Mans in 1995. I wasn't there but from what I seen and read he was amazing that day.
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9 Jan 2005, 20:58
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it was the early 50's
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9 Jan 2005, 21:01
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it was the early 50's I forgot the guys name but he drove 22+ hours and almost won in a ferrari. I think it was against the works mercedes team I cant remember. something happened to his co-driver and he just drove the rest of the race. but that was crazy, heroic,stupid and beyond anything alse to me in motorsports ever.what a drive. and he only lost when he had a small lapse in concentration. can you blame him.
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