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21 Jul 2003, 11:09
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Thanks Bryan,
Looking at paperwork with my car properly, I see that it was from today back :
Me
Swiss dealer C Grohe who bought from Widow of
Jean Paloumet of Nice, deceased in road accident
Baldini of Nice
then it say Nino Vacarella
Is that the great man, Ferrari driver in sports cars ie Targa Floria ???
Do you know if this is correct ?
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21 Jul 2003, 14:30
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KDW - yours wasn't by any chance restored by Peter Denty?
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21 Jul 2003, 14:46
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Kevin,
I too love the non-F1 monocoques, and deeply envy you. I have seen Paul Matty's with the TC engine at HSCC meetings, and there is another with a BRM 1000cc DOHC F2 engine which used to appear in HGPA events, I don't know who owned it. There was a 35 at the auction at Coys in 1999 (I think) in a horrible mustard-and-mushy-pea-green colour scheme with an Alfa 1500 engine in it (and a big lump hacked out of the monocoque to accomodate the oil filter) which had come from S. Africa. I have quite a few photos. Where and when will you be racing? Do you need a helper(unskilled!)?
Chris,
The Martin engine saga is another one of my interests, which I am trying get the definitive story on. The new biog of Piers Courage has some info in it, also there was an article in Motor Racing mag in early 1967 and one in Classic Cars in 1990 IIRC about Ted Martin. It seems Lucas had a spare 35 and Ted Martin was looking for a test-bed for the first 3L engine. It raced once in a F.Libre race at Mallory Park on Boxing Day 1966 where Roy Pike came third, non-started at Brands either due to a bent rocker or due to being tow-started with cold oil (it was bitter that day - I was there!) and snapping the cambelt, and then was crashed by Courage testing at Snetterton and caught fire. It was said to have been written-off, but in the Autosport of March 8th 1968 it is offered for sale for £3475, by J.A. Pearce Motors ironically.
Another Motor Racing article, in early 1968, says that Lucas wanted to concentrate on his F3 Titans, so the crash gave him the reason to abandon the F1.
The Ted Martin article in 1990 says that Pearce gave up racing after his team was burnt out, and Ted then was stuck for customers until John Woolf bought some and then Chris Lawrence of Lawrencetune fame ordered some for the Monica road car project. Lawrence seems to have taken over marketing as well, because he was advertising the engines for Supersaloons in July 1970 (235 bhp @ 7500 rpm, 230 lbs weight).
Bryan/Kevin/Chris, I'd love to see the final chassis history details. Do any of the 44's survive, they were the prettiest of all IMHO?
Paul Mackness
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21 Jul 2003, 17:30
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Originally posted by KDW
Bryan & Chris
I have borrowed a number of Lotus 35 photos from Ted Walkers Ferret Fhotographics.
These are annotated with chassis no driver and event/date.
I will write a list and post it. Thanks for all your help.
Further to the Martin V8 there was one L35 in USA that was fitted with a Ford 289 for F5000.
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Kevin
Ted gets his chassis numbers from the F1 Register books when he puts his labels on the pictures. The chassis numbers are not from contemporary notes so shouldn't be taken as confirmaton of F1R records.
Allen
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21 Jul 2003, 17:42
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...Further to the Martin V8 there was one L35 in USA that was fitted with a Ford 289 for F5000.
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That was the Dimmer car I mentioned above. Raced by Vernon Shields in 1968-70 period.
There was also a 35 in 1967 with a FPF 2.5 in Formula A which may or may not be the Shields car. Ed Marshall ran this at Continental Divide 14 May 1967.
Allen
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21 Jul 2003, 20:51
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Kevin/Bryan
Here's a little more, non F1R information [From contemporary journals]
1967
Harris still has two cars, run for Cardwell and Offenstadt
Ernst Maring an F3 car run in 66 by KArl von Wendt
Dieter Lanzerath an F3 run in 66 by Neerpasch
Willment still has a car, run for Juncadella in F3, but this cannot be 35-F-17 which is in Sweden run first by Kottulinsky [66] then Niklasson [67] then Kottulinsky again [68]
1968
Willie Forbes has 35-F-15
Damien Magee has 'an ex Lucas 35' ? 35-F-19?
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22 Jul 2003, 07:28
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Expat,
No mine is untouched, except for my re wire, replumb water and brakes. Paul Matty's 35 was restored by P Denty.
Kevin
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22 Jul 2003, 07:40
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Paul,
re Martin engines. There was an interesting article by Ted Martin in Autosport regarding his problems with FJ 105E engines. The next week Cosworth replied with engine component pics, to say in effect they were ahead of the game.
Kevin
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22 Jul 2003, 07:46
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Chris,
It was between a Lotus 41 and the 35 as to which car to buy!
Now I have had to remove the engine and gearbox to enable me to reach the starter motor, one can see why the F3 continental circus went for space frame cars !
I have also borrowed a load of 41 pics from Ted Walker. Lovely car, and some one needs to sort out the detail.
I must express an interest here. As part of my enthusisam I publish a bi monthly mag, "Lotus Single Seaters", which I hope will go someway to offsetting the cost of my racing !
Kevin
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23 Jul 2003, 16:51
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Lotus 35
In 1969 the ex Peter Sellers Racing 35 is being raced in F3 by Tony Birchenough.
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24 Jul 2003, 09:16
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Chris,
I have photos of Birchenough driving his car, so thats one more car / chassis no identified.
Kevin
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24 Jul 2003, 21:05
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Here's the ex-Peter Sellers car at Croft in May 66 when raced by Bill Robson. It still has Peter Sellers Racing painted on the side, but has an interesting home made nose.
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24 Jul 2003, 22:23
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Re the Mo Nunn car [F3-8]. Autosport race report for the Lombank Tr race at Mallory in March '68, says it's still his 1966 car, so it may well be that the Jennings ad was the original owner trying to sell it. after Nunn had used it for a season or so.
Re 35's: a Paul Tucomb enters the 'ex Collomb' car for the Coupe de Vitesse at Albi in '68
Do we know how long Bill Robson had the ex-Sellers Racing car?
Chris
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25 Jul 2003, 08:23
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Re 35's
Brian Hart drove a 35 fitted with a non standard nose, it looked like the Protos, so I assume it was a low drag Costin nose.
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