Update

Bryan Miller · 30 Jul 2003, 23:27

Another trail on a Lotus 35.
Autosport 21-5-70 at Mondello reports the ex. Luke Duffy Lotus 35 changing hands to Des McCoy. Page no. 31
Bryan.

Bryan Miller · 2 Aug 2003, 23:13

Kevin.

Two more trails for your Lotus 35 quest.

Autosport 27-8-70 page 3 , has a car with Austrian driver Richard Weber.
F1R. has Wolfgang Stumpf running at Munchen-Neubiberg 25-10-1970 in Lotus 35 , 35-F- 15.

Regards Bryan.

KDW · 3 Aug 2003, 15:08

Bryan,
thanks, we are getting there.
I was at HSCC Castle Combe yesterday. V hot.
Classic Racing Cars is where I am headed. The Lotus 35 is over 500cc and pre 12/65.
at CC there was just one competetitor in that class, so provided I finish, even, (huh, I AM going to be slow!), if I am v slow, I shall be 2nd !!!
No Lotus entered at all, seemed mostly to be Brabhams. In other classes were some lovely cars, inc several screamer 1 litre cars. They seem to be allowed to run cut Avon slicks, so while loosing out a little on top speed, their cornering power gets them good results. They looked and sounded v nice.
Kevin

ROBSL · 3 Aug 2003, 22:39

Lotus 35 F2 BRM still have it last used at Coys a few years ago where I loaned it to Jurg Dubler.
There was another similar car that I saw in Coys in the early 1980's and they told me it had been sold to Japan.

KDW · 5 Aug 2003, 15:50

Robs,
I have a photo from Ted Walkers Ferret Emporium that shows Jaques Maglia in a F2 Snetterton race, driving his Lotus 32.
Ted's photo gives 32-F2-6 as the chassis number.
The b&w pic shows a white? car with a central darker stripe down the middle. SCA engine cover and w web wheels.
So I take it that was the car you and Frank bought.
On your 35 does the monocoque number and chassis plate tie up with same number.
When I spoke to Clive Chapman recently, he said my tub no 35/22 was F20.
Kevin

allenbrown · 5 Aug 2003, 18:21

Kevin

Just a reminder - Ted's chassis numbers come from published F1 Register sources. They do not mean a contemporary, independent identification.

Allen

John Lindsay · 6 Aug 2003, 01:54

Kevin
Tony Barchou,who used to work with Ian Raby Racing had a Ron Harris Lotus 35 for sale in Toronto ,Canada about 20 years ago.A beautiful car ,in perfect condition,complete with a BRM ( Hope my memory is correct on the engine). He was asking $4500 at the time. I don't know where it went
Re Martin V8 engines. There were a pair of heads and numerous other parts for a 2 lire V8 engine for sale here for years.Martin used to work at GM in St Catharines ,Ontario Canada for a few years.The parts are probably still around here
John

KDW · 6 Aug 2003, 06:54

I take your point Allen, re Teds numbers, but it's all I have got to go on. I must speak to Jaques who now lives in Greece.
The Martin 2 litre V8 interests me. What formula was that aimed at? Was it 100% Martin or was it based on some production block etc? Do you know John?
If they ever invent time travel are we going to be rich !
Kevin

macca · 6 Aug 2003, 09:00

Kevin

The Martin V8 of 1966-1970 was based on the heads from Ted Martin's FJ Anglia engine IIRC and the first couple made were 2-litre and ended up in the back of sportscars, at least one of which was in the USA, after Ted had got the 3-litres up and running.

Graham White who used to have a shop at Goodwood and was big in Renaults in the 1970s and '80s told me that he remembered another, later, Martin V8 2-litre, a more sophisticated engine that was used in the European 2-litre
championship in the 1970s - can anyone shed any further light on this?

Paul Mackness

KDW · 6 Aug 2003, 16:15

Paul
The Martin FJ engine development was the subject of a article by T Martin in Jan 61 Autosport. All was not going well !
Kevin

KDW · 8 Aug 2003, 15:07

All
In the current Formula Junior Racing Assoc magazine is an obituary for John Romanes of Edinburgh. Seems this Scottish gentleman raced a Lotus 35. It was powered by a Martin engine, that was later removed to fit a 2 litre Climax and raced at Ingleston. The obit writer Andrew Fletcher also drove the same 35 on occasions at Croft and Ingleston.
At Croft the rear suspension broke and the car ended up inverted.
John was so upset at this he cut the Lotus 35 up when he got home.
So that means 1 less to survive today, we are down to 21 cars.
Kevin

allenbrown · 8 Aug 2003, 16:33

No, that probably means 23 cars. Each half will have been rebuilt back into a complete car.

So is this the Lotus 35-Martin V8?

And is this the same Andrew Fletcher who drove the Fireball-Chev F5000 hill-climb car?

Allen

David McKinney · 8 Aug 2003, 19:01

Don't know about the Fireball connection, but it's surely the same Andrew Fletcher who turns out in historic sportscar races from time to time. Mate of Pipes, I think.

KDW · 19 Aug 2003, 16:22

All,
I have been told that Freddie Kottulinski who raced in F3 with a 35 sold his car to someone who used the tub and rear suspension in a silhouette Triumph Spitfire racer.
Where is that car now ?
The front hubs and uprights are owned by the man who related the story.

Kevin

Richard Young · 20 Aug 2003, 00:07

Re: Fireball.......
Visited Ingliston a couple of times in the early 70s. Was it realy Andrew Fletcher? I seem to remember him as a Brabham pilot then. Was there not an Andy ROBERTS (or similar) aboard a modified '58 or '59 Cooper with V8 power which had been renamed Fireball. It may have felt like one from the driving seat but didn't really look that way.
I remember Andrew Fletcher as a much more serious contender in those days, or maybe I'm going wobbly in the head.
It should have happened years ago.....