Irish F.Atlantic

[Dan Rear]

Richard

I wonder where the Mooney car came from ? Was it from US/Far East, or maybe the ex-Hunter car? I think only 2 80As were in the UK when new, one Adams/Uliburri had, the other Bernard Hunter.

Separate matter for Chris T. I saw Kim briefly this morning, he said his brother's March was the ex-Graham Coaker 712, the one the other directors gave him to avoid paying him out in cash ! Coaker was killed in this at Silverstone (the Lawrence March book), and Mike Mather bought it from his widow. Kim said the first thing they did was repaint it from green into yellow !!!

Dan

[Chris Townsend]

Dan

Thanks for the info about the Coaker car. I'd found a note which said it was ex Coaker/Santo and couldn't find a way of fitting Clive Santo into that particular equation. Do we know what happened to that car? Mike has a shunt in it at the second Yellow Pages round of 1973 and then appears with the ex Calvert 722 [29] in future. Was that shunt terminal for the car or did bits of it wind up in the 742?
Incidentally, the Coaker car can only have been one of four [unless March knocked it up as a special no number job]. Does 712-12; 22; 23; 24 ring any bells?

Chris

[Dan Rear]

Chris

Sorry no idea re the 712 no, a bit before my time! I'll ask Kim when we next speak, as I'm back in touch with him now after 20 odd years ! I lent him the David Gordon-Chevron book, which he hadn't been aware of. Makes you think of the differences between us 'anoraks' and those who really do it. Kim looked great, hadn't changed in the time that I last saw him, Mallory 81.

[Dan Rear]

Dave/Richard

Any more info on the Irish March 80As, you mentioned before that Tommy Reid has 2 of them.

[Dan Rear]

Chris

Sorry to be a pain, are you any nearer on the various Barton cars. I was looking at a GT race in a prog earlier, and saw he won in his AC3000 that was based, I think, on his ex-Kim/Roy Baker March 802. While I remember, Roy Baker is entered in 79 UK Atlantic in a "March 752/77P", any ideas ???

[Richard Young]

Sorry Dan,
I've had my eye off the ball. Will check tomorrow, along with the Bill Gowdy query from the RT1 thread.

[Dan Rear]

Richard

Did you see my comments on Irish Chevrons on the "other Chevrons" thread ? A few odd B42s I wonder if you know anything about.

Dan

[dereklola]

Rather belated response to the summer discussion of a Ralt RT1 supposedly with CanAm/Cicale/BuickV6 history.

As Allen mentioned that was Mike Freberg's #33 car in hte CanAm series. It originally ran with a Hart engine and then the V6 - according to entry lists. Any reference to Cicale bodies should be viewed with caution - seems to me that almost any full width body with almost any ground effect tunnels was called a Cicale.

As for the pics posted showing the car in Ireland in May 2003 - do cars actually compete in such rough condition? The body looked nicelt painted but the chassis looks terrible. Also The "big brakes" refered to were normal on slightly later Atlantics. My 1976 Lola T460 originally came with such calipers and vented rotors but by the time I bought it it had AS calipers and solid rotors as used by RT1s - obviously swapped at some stage. In fact the Hewland FT200 is marked Ralt RT1 - wonder if my Lola and the Freberg Ralt swapped gearboxes and brakes at some time??? Just kidding - but it could have happened.

[Bryan Miller]

Derek.

I see the ref. to Lola T460.

Col Haste has a thread going on these cars, perhaps you may be able to assist.

Bryan.

[Dan Rear]

Richard

Did you get anywhere with the Gowdy RT1 and the Tommy Reid Atlantic Marches ???

Dan

[Dan Rear]

On Irish RT1s, Alo had 2 I believe. The ex-Cheever F2 car that he raced a couple of times only in 78 with a Hart engine. He then got the Lola T760 for '79, didn't like it. From early 80 to mid 80, when he got the RT4, he had the ex-Mallock Atlantic RT1, I think an ex-Italian F2 chassis. I think, Richard/Dave will know better, this went to Tom O'Leary after. So what happened to the ex-Cheever 76-77 car ??

[Richard Young]

Dan,
Yes Bill Gowdy is on holiday at present but I will speak to him (hopefully) over the w/e. Regarding Tommys cars, I think I will have to pay a visit......

[Smellybeard]

RE. The Ralt RT1 supposedly with CanAm/Cicale/BuickV6 history.

Yeah... It looks a bit rough. Those photographs were taken on it's first outing this century! The B42 nose was as a result of contact that morning. Good RT1 FA noses are hard to come by at the moment. A lot of work has been done on it since.

Again, any ideas what it was before it was can-amalized? Did Mike Freberg build it or buy it complete?

March 80A... Mooney's 80A was the ex Adams one with the 802 chisel nose and radiators fitted in the sidepods.

David.

[allenbrown]

David

We don't know for sure it was the Freberg car - that speculation based on the V6 engine.

Allen

[Smellybeard]

It is the Freberg car.

Dave.