Schumacher Vs Alonso - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

marzF1rocks · 23 Apr 2006, 15:07

Now i know on the telly, they were saying michael was having tyre problems,but was he.
Is it all possible he colud have been trying to hold alonso up just like alonso did the year b4....

P.s Well done to mark webber for getting in to 6th his best result yet i think

Knowlesy · 23 Apr 2006, 15:10

No, he was struggling.

If he was merely holding up Alonso, he must have very good judgement of Renault's pit calls.

marzF1rocks · 23 Apr 2006, 15:15

I think t6hats when team radio makes a huge difference, usual we would hear what was going on.

I really don't think coverage on the telly was good

Menelaos · 23 Apr 2006, 15:16

I think calling in Alonso was a pretty serious mistake on behalf of Renault. The instant decision of Ferrari to pit schumi on the very next lap saved him and was the obvious way to go I think.

marzF1rocks · 23 Apr 2006, 15:20

ferrari, have the upper hand as they have more experience, at these situation,

It dosn't upset alonsos lead to much though...

Dutton · 23 Apr 2006, 15:23

IMHO, Michael was clearly struggling. I think his struggling pace was 1:26.5-1:27.2 (ish). Ferrari knew they had no hope of staying ahead if things took the usual route (i.e. Alonso stopping later).

Thus Michael backed off into the 28s to try and goad Renault into stopping early, as it represented the only opportunity to stay ahead. Put it this way: when Michael suddenly went faster by, IIRC, 0.7s after Alonso pitted I was not in the slightest bit surprised.

Renault made an obvious error bringing Alonso in. It may have been doable had they switched him to a splash-and-dash.

ralf fan · 23 Apr 2006, 15:54

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Originally Posted by Dutton

IMHO, Michael was clearly struggling. I think his struggling pace was 1:26.5-1:27.2 (ish). Ferrari knew they had no hope of staying ahead if things took the usual route (i.e. Alonso stopping later).

Thus Michael backed off into the 28s to try and goad Renault into stopping early, as it represented the only opportunity to stay ahead. Put it this way: when Michael suddenly went faster by, IIRC, 0.7s after Alonso pitted I was not in the slightest bit surprised.

tsk Dutton....copied and pasted your post from another thread....

**Adam43** · 23 Apr 2006, 15:58

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Originally Posted by marzF1rocks

Now i know on the telly, they were saying michael was having tyre problems,but was he.
Is it all possible he colud have been trying to hold alonso up just like alonso did the year b4....

You have an odd year number system there. In the Gregorian calendar it was year 2005.

Yes and yes. He was struggling and he was tryingto keep Alonso behind! The slw pace did actually aid him as it meant he didn't come up to as many back markers.

I think the slow pace also make Renault jumpy.

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Originally Posted by marzF1rocks

I think t6hats when team radio makes a huge difference, usual we would hear what was going on

The teams can chose what they don't want us to hear. It is unlikely they wanted any crucial information going out then.

Dutton · 23 Apr 2006, 16:00

Nope, the other thread is copied and pasted from this one. That is why I put a line of asterisks after it in the other thread.

Mr V · 23 Apr 2006, 18:15

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Originally Posted by marzF1rocks

P.s Well done to mark webber for getting in to 6th his best result yet i think

Off topic, but to reply, Marks best result so far was 3rd in Monaco last year.

**Adam43** · 23 Apr 2006, 18:45

and he had a fifth in Melbourne in a Minardi.

DeoValente · 23 Apr 2006, 18:54

Yeah DUH! there where 6 cars finishing that race. And he was lucky Salo made a mistake or he wouldv ended 6th and last.

**Bononi** · 23 Apr 2006, 18:55

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

You have an odd year number system there. In the Gregorian calendar it was year 2005.

Yes and yes. He was struggling and he was tryingto keep Alonso behind! The slw pace did actually aid him as it meant he didn't come up to as many back markers.

I think the slow pace also make Renault jumpy.

The teams can chose what they don't want us to hear. It is unlikely they wanted any crucial information going out then.

Great display of mastery. Senna used to say that "Closing the gap is the easiest part, but to overtake is a different story"

rcarr · 23 Apr 2006, 19:00

Michael kept his cool while under pressure I feel he drove well, while Alonso was the one making mistakes behind him! Pat Symonds was wrong when he said to Ted Kravitz, Alonso only made one mistake! I counted at least 3!