Chevron B48

[Chris Townsend]

Stoopit question I know, but a relevant one perhaps if the plate made up for Brill's modification was a duplicate number done three years after the model was built.
But
Do we know if the plate that Chevron used in 1979 build [ie Derek Bennett era] was identical to that used in 82 once the firm had gone bust and been taken into new ownership? Could we therefore, with B48-04, tell which was an original 79 plate and which the copy.

Chris

[driftwood]

I would think a chevron plate is a chevron plate at that time all blanks with chevron bolton address on then stamped up when needed
we know March plates changed shape style colour with the different eras
( wanna buy some!!??)

Did Chevron Scotland re make the plates for the 2 or 3 cars they made?

I would think when Brill B42 was meddled with someone had a plate in their possession and stamped it up 2 pop rivets and away u go
Wanna buy some??

[driftwood]

u deserve it just as allen gave to me!!!
read the posts u will see there are 2 cars 1 b42 1 b48 car the 42 had the b48 plate (recent posts then go back 2 or 3 pages for the other Brill B42/48 comments ) added in 82 it is NOT a b48 car
th ereal B48 is the real car
why did Brill fit b48 plate who knows!!

[allenbrown]

Originally Posted by driftwood

why did Brill fit b48 plate who knows!!

Aaargh!!

Brill didn't. That plate went onto it about 1981 or 1982 when Rowan had it.

[driftwood]

I have just been flicking thru 1980 AS mag found the september Aurora Oulton Park race report with chassis numbers
chevron b42 05 bob howlings
chevron b45 04 jim crawford
chevron b48 01 warren booth
chevron b48 04 brian robinson ( is this the B42 with the 48 plate on it?
chevron b48 05 roy baker
plus march f2 cars

march 792/2 divina galicia
marcj 802/2 Kim mather

[Dan Rear]

Drifty, some of these are wrong, or you've read them wrong... Robinson B48 was -08, his B42 was -17. Kim's 802 was -22.

[driftwood]

Im going home right now to re read the magazine !!

[driftwood]

re checked all are correct as per AS sept 25 1980 except the march 802//22 i didnt hit the button for a 2nd time !!

In same mag AMCO has advert for b42 roller for sale

I know they are are for other treads but the same readers follow them all

Project 4 has 802 f2 cars for sale
2 ads for 782/78B cars 1 is ex cheever p4 car
Argo JM6 Guerrero tassin F3 cars for sale
plus the DAF 33 Supersaloon roller

plus hillclimb foto of Galibrath in 742/782 bodied wendy wools march

[Dan Rear]

Robinson B48 DEFINITELY -08!! -04 was the Stohr/Trivellato car. The 782 added was I presume the Charlie Kirby car, which may have gone to Duncan Bain in 82-83, tho' thats only a guess...

[driftwood]

yes agree the b48 04is the trivellato Stohr car its odd they used that chassis number unless Robinson borrowed the Rowan Brill car?
did Brian turn the 48 into the GT esprit?
yes Kirby was the March 782 advert

[driftwood]

Found libre seasonal survey report Dec 1980 it mentions Brian robinson as a chevron b42/b48 driver
is that insinuating he ran a b42 car updated to b48 or the fact he races both models from his stables

[Dan Rear]

Drifty, Brian R did turn his B48 into the Esprit, winter 81-82 I think. I can't see him borrowing the Brill car, at that time he had the 42, the 48, and his mate Tony Dean another 42, so no reason to borrow the Brill car.

Late in '78 he and Dean between them bought 3 of the 4 Briggs/Gethin B42s, numbered, I think, -05, -17, and -19. Warren B bought the 4th, -16. They raced the 42s between them thru' 79 Aurora and Libre.

Brian R bought the B48right at the end of 79, and for 80 used the 42 and 48. 42-05 was sold to Howlings/AMCO who used it in Aurora/Libre thru' 1980.

[driftwood]

so in theory the 3 cars for sale will be 3 out of these 4 cars
as Howlings was selling his B42 thats chassis 5 accounted for
without looking up the STD codes its hard to say who was selling which car

[Dan Rear]

On the 782 thread on here, Chris kindly identifies some of the 1980 Phoenix Park Irish Atlantics from the Mondello pics thread. One of these he says is Tom O'Leary in a B48. This is a new one on me, which car is it??

[Dan Rear]

Originally Posted by Dan Rear

On the 782 thread on here, Chris kindly identifies some of the 1980 Phoenix Park Irish Atlantics from the Mondello pics thread. One of these he says is Tom O'Leary in a B48. This is a new one on me, which car is it??

No-one know anything about the O'Leary B48??? On the pic I mentioned, it has a 'Grange' sticker on it, so I assume its the Brian Rob car, borrowed by O'Leary ?

[driftwood]

highly likely as Brian had both his chevrons thru till 85 ish
i recall seeing f2 and GT car side by side at donington i reckon that was 83 or 84

[CATMAN]

Originally Posted by Bryan Miller

All.

The Huub Rothengatter car B48-79-07 , with it's Alan Docking modified bodywork was used by Australian Andrew Miedecke at Macau , and had a pretty good accident in Andrews hands.
Car returned to Aust. damaged and bodywork discarded , the rest of the car inclunding Hewland FG are still in this form residing in the Southern Highlands of N.S.W.
Neeeds a new tub, otherwise everything is still there less BDA.

Bryan Miller.

The above post is from a few years back. This car / box of parts is back in the UK with its Australian owner.
I'm told the tub is repairable , if anyone is interested please contact me and I can have photo's or contact deatils emailed to you.
Anyone out there who wants a box of bits Chevron B 48 project please contact me as the car is for sale.
There is a comprensive photo collection and a photo af the car in Macau and at Hockenheim.

[driftwood]

i thought Huub car was run by steve jewell now sold to belgian who has the Rahal car
i know of another b48 sitting in a shed for rebuild will get plate # next week when i am back there seems it last ran in FA trim

[CATMAN]

I understand that the crashed car was taken to OZ from Macau by Andrew Miedecke who sold it to a friend who is still its present owner.
It is "rumoured" that somebody else was claiming to be selling the same chassis number B48 a while back I understand.
I understand that the provenance of the car can be proven beyond doubt and anyone interested can deal directly with the Australian owner (UK based along with the car at present) if seriously interested parties contact me

[Bryan Miller]

Elwyn has finally found his way on to the internet.
The history is bulletproof.
Bryan.

[CATMAN]

Elwyn has the car in Woking, Surrey I understand, where he is working at present.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42843483@N00/698872367/

[driftwood]

thats b48 side pod attached to a b40 42 nose cone!
what £ does he expect for the wreck

1 roller here for sale clean tidy less gbox but it has ft200 sitting on the floor £15k

[CATMAN]

Hi Driftwood,
The details were passed to me and I remeber seeing this thread a long while back.
The car is of no interest to me but I thought someone on TT may be interested or know someone who is. The car ran different side pods and nose cone to what it ran in Euro F2, I'v also been sent a picture of the car at Hockenheim and very recent photo's of all the parts that are for sale and a brief history of the car and contact details for Elwyn Bickley the owner.



If you use the private messaging here and leave me an email address I can forward all the photo's and details as the price is negotiable with the owner and I do not want to upset the site.
On a personal note I know that the gear box and some suspension parts are quite rare and valuable!!!

[CATMAN]

[CATMAN]

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