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Old 3 Jul 2006, 07:53   #1
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V8 vs Superbike @ QR next weekend

Next weekend will see the next round of the Australian Superbike Championship run at Queensland Raceway.

So what has this got to do with V8Supercars well according to the bike series web site there will be a race between a Yamaha Superbike & the V8Supercar of Jamie Whincup. They ran a Porsche vs bike comparo last year with the combatants running half a lap apart (for obvious safety reasons) so I would assume it will be the same this year.

Here is the press release from Ausco (the mob who run the bike series)


Queensland Superbike v V8 Supercar Showdown!

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At long last after all the talk about "who is faster a V8 Supercar or a Superbike" it is finally going to be decided.

Queensland Raceway will be the site of an amazing on-track battle between the nation’s premier motorcycle and touring car series’ this Sunday July 9, with the Yamaha Racing Team YZF-R1 Superbike of Daniel Stauffer going head to head with the Team Betta Electrical BA Ford Falcon V8 Supercar of Jamie Whincup.

The two-wheel versus four-wheel race will be an incredible and unprecedented spectacle for racegoers attending round four of the YMF Loan Australian Superbike Championship at the Ipswich circuit.

Both series are considered the pinnacle of their respective racing disciplines, with huge fan bases and recognition on a national and international scale.

Stauffer and Whincup are household names in their respective categories and have both stood atop the podium on a number of occasions, but there can only be one winner in this epic track showdown.

An excited Stauffer said he was looking forward to the opportunity to take on a V8 Supercar on the 3.12km racetrack, and was honoured to be offered the chance to pilot the Superbike.

“It is an amazing opportunity for both myself and the series in general, it’s one of those fictional comparisons that motorsport fans can always imagine and for it to be actually take place is an absolute thrill,” said Stauffer.

“Aside from the obvious differences between our racecraft, there really are quite a lot of similarities between the two championships, and when it comes to lap times there is nearly nothing in it,” he said.

“Jamie is a great up-and-coming talent in V8 Supercars and has already won a round this year, so it will be no easy task for the Yamaha 1000cc machine, I’m predicting it will be neck and neck right to the finish line.”

Winner of the Adelaide Clipsal 500 in March, Jamie Whincup was similarly enthused at the prospect of the race, and believed the Team Betta Electrical V8 Supercar would offer an immense challenge to the Superbike.

“V8 Supercar racers closely follow a number of national championships and the Australian Superbike Series is a real standout in terms of speed and performance on the track,” said Whincup.

“Both racing calendars include a number of the same circuits including Queensland Raceway, so this race is sure to be extremely interesting.”

“The Falcon and Yamaha will have strengths that show in different areas, and one of the main characteristics of a V8 Supercar that often surprises racegoers is the big braking ability into corners, especially into turn 3 at the end of the back straight,” he ended.

The Yamaha Racing Team YZF-R1 Superbike will take to the circuit along with the Team Betta Electrical Ford Falcon V8 Supercar during a break from motorcycle racing at approximately 12.00pm on Sunday July 9.

The racebred machines will square off in a controlled race environment and are sure to generate a buzz throughout Ipswich’s typically strong ASC crowds. The V8 Supercar and Superbike will start on opposite sides of the track for a 3-lap dash against each other and the clock.

The immensely entertaining and successful race format was utilised at last season’s round of the championship at Queensland Raceway, featuring a Gemballa Porsche and showroom Yamaha YZF-R1.

With bragging rights and pride at stake for both the two and four-wheeled fraternities in this mega horsepower showdown, fans are guaranteed a full-throttle effort from Stauffer and Whincup.

The Superbike produces approximately 190 horsepower compared to the V8 Supercar’s 640 horsepower, though the power-to-weight ratio brings both back to an even playing field.

Stauffer’s R1 weighs in at around 170kg, while Whincup’s Falcon tips the scales at 1355kg, almost 8 times heavier. The difference means a slightly higher top speed for the Superbike, an advantage that will be quickly eaten away as the V8 Supercar carves through corners with relative ease in comparison to its two-wheeled opponent. Both machines rely on Dunlop tyres in order to keep them glued to the bitumen.

Racegoers can enjoy the spectacle of non-stop action from 9am Sunday, featuring 7 different categories all aiming for a round victory at the championship’s only visit to Queensland in 2006.

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lowndes did the same at the 888 fanday lastyear (v8sc vs SBK vs FFord Vs aussieracer), out of three races the v8 won 2-1
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V8 vs FF would have been cool.

I'd like to see a V8 against a Sports Sedan
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So does anybody out there know who won?
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Old 10 Jul 2006, 07:50   #6
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So does anybody out there know who won?
The bike.

It says the bike time was 1.09.837 which was quicker than Ambroses time for pole last year at the clip.

Doesn't mention Whincup.

eta..and the bike was Russel Holland so that stuffs the whole thing up. ;-/

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I'd like to see a V8 against a Sports Sedan
That would be an awesome site.
Although I don't think some of the egos in V8 Supercars would be able to handle copping a flogging from "amateurs" that well!
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Thank you Mr Retro.

If the bike did a 1.09, the supercar would'nt have been far behind.
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It is the same thing, isn't it?
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The bike.

It says the bike time was 1.09.837 which was quicker than Ambroses time for pole last year at the clip.

Doesn't mention Whincup.

eta..and the bike was Russel Holland so that stuffs the whole thing up. ;-/
The Courier Mail in Brisbane has a feature on the meet and has headlined it with Russell Holland on a Honda CBR 1000 beating Ambrose's time for last year.....they haven't mentioned Whincup.
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Since when has TEGA been publicity shy??

Looks like the comparo did not happen.

The following is a press release from AUSCO who run the bike series.

http://www.formula-xtreme.com.au/xtremema.nsf/6e7929353ac5e7c2ca256fe8007b498c/e41473dd9932c5f9ca2571a400717e23!OpenDocument

YMF Loan Australian Superbike Championship Announcement
07/07/06
From AUSCO
The much-anticipated V8 Supercar vs. Superbike demonstration to be held at this weekend’s round of the YMF Loan Australian Superbike Championship has been regrettably removed from the midday entertainment schedule on Sunday.

Despite the written support of V8 Supercars Australia (VESA), a late request from the Touring Car Entrants Group of Australia (TEGA) at 3.00pm on Wednesday afternoon requested various documentation to be produced, and even though the Australian Superbike Championship (ASC) met each specified requirement, TEGA was still unable to grant approval for the promotional opportunity to take place.

The announcement has proven to be of great embarrassment to Australian Superbike Championship promoters AUSCO who went to great lengths to organise the demonstration.

“Despite the very late request, AUSCO was able to present to TEGA all requested documentation and insurance information to ensure the event would take place ahead of this weekend’s round,” said Terry O’Neill, Promoter of the YMF Loan Australian Superbike Championship.

Disappointingly, TEGA still have not been able to provide the necessary approval.”

“Triple Eight Race Engineering have been fantastic in this situation and will still lend their support to the event, bringing along Jamie Whincup and his #88 Ford Falcon V8 Supercar on Sunday.”

“This is indeed a great shame for V8 Supercar and Superbike fans alike, and given the amount of interest the activity has received we are still attempting to stage a comparison with another Motorsport category.”

Racegoers can still catch all the on-track action at Queensland Raceway from 7 motorcycle categories including the headline YMF Loan Australian Superbike Championship from 9am each day, including a huge day of racing this Sunday July 9.

Fans are invited to attend the spectactor-friendly Ipswich race circuit to witness first-hand all the thrills and spills of national level competition, and can meet all the big names of the sport including Honda’s Adam Fergusson, Yamaha’s Jamie Stauffer, Suzuki’s Robbie Bugden and Kawasaki’s Shannon Johnson.

Rider autograph sessions, a spectator pit walk and team merchandise displays are just a few of the off-track activities taking place on Sunday.
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Looks like the comparo did not happen.
Now I can see why the the report in the paper was a little vague.(and did not mention Whincup)
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Just for your information........

Jamie Stauffer qualified at a 1:09.594, with the first 3 bikes in the 9's.

Russell Holland won both superbike races with best lap times of 1:09.837 race 1 and 1:09.851 race 2.
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I find it suprising that it would be TEGA that would prohibit it rather than AVESCO. I guess theres more to it. You'd think it would be in TEGAs interests to say what the problem was, otherwise it looks a bit foolish.
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Foolish, yeah. More like that it didn't want its "premier motorsport category" given a flogging by what is essentially a $18,000 road bike on slicks.

For those who don't know, Australian superbikes are less developed than the world superbike category. At PI, they're about 2 secs a lap slower than their WSB counterparts which are near V8 laptimes, perhaps a tad faster. MotoGPs are quicker than the V8s but not by much. I think that what is made up is the 330 km/h speeds down into Turn One....

Still a pathetic gesture on Tega's part. I'll bet that it didn't cite the reasons for the withdrawl, either.
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