March 762 - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

allenbrown · 17 Jul 2006, 12:37

Please excuse me dumping this here but I've been searching high and low for this reference and eventually found it on the somewhat-forgotten Shellsport International Championship 1977 thread.

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Originally Posted by allenbrown

I found another reference to a Musetti March: Autosport 6 Apr 1978 p58 mentions "Bill Wood (ex Val Musetti F2 March)". In the results (p59) it's called a March 752. Wood appears on other occasions in 1978 and the car is sometimes called a 762 but this is the only mention I've seen of it being ex-Musetti.

I speculated at the time that it would be the car Divi had driven in 1977 but let's not get into all that again!

allenbrown · 25 Jul 2006, 14:12

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Originally Posted by driftwood

... tub/ naked car looks the same at 5 paces

You said that the 752, 762 and 772 had wider tubs but the 77B and 772P had the narrower tubs again.

allenbrown · 30 Aug 2006, 13:04

772-10 Gaudenzia Mantova F2 from May 1977 [F1R] although MN call this a 762 in some results. This number also associated with David Franklin's 1978 hillclimb car but I can't track down why we know that.

Adam Ferrington · 30 Aug 2006, 16:59

Allen,

A bit more from the records......

772-4 Angeliri (Euroracing) - Written off by Mantova at Hockenheim in April 77. Rebuilt at factory around monocoque 772-14. Seen to carry pseudo chassis plate 762-6, presumably for carnet reasons (this explains the F1R references to a 762)
772-9 Markus Hotz - delivered 27 May 1977 - virtually a new car built up from the remains of 762-U1 (no doubt sold as a new car - typical March!)
772-10 David Franklin - Built using several second hand components. Fitted with front radiator and 771B nose - collected 26/1/1978

allenbrown · 30 Aug 2006, 18:32

Thanks Adam.

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Originally Posted by Adam Ferrington

772-9 Markus Hotz - delivered 27 May 1977 - virtually a new car built up from the remains of 762-U1 (no doubt sold as a new car - typical March!)

That's curious. Hotz appears only once in 1977 (according to F1R), at Hockenheim on 1 May in an unidentified 762. He is next seen at Hockenheim 24 Sep 1978 in a Lista Racing March 782. He'd been a regular DNA in Lista entries in 1975 and 1976 as well but I don't see any Lista entries in 1977. So was that 772 for a customer, as Hotz was also March importer at the time? If it was, I can't see who the customer could have been.

He still runs historic European F2 in a Lista March 762 (chassis 8?) so maybe someone could ask him?

Allen

Dan Rear · 31 Aug 2006, 08:46

I presume Fischer's is really a 762, the ex-Surer car at a guess. What about the Chris Alford 762 ?

allenbrown · 11 Sep 2006, 11:56

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Originally Posted by allenbrown

I just found a reference to this Paul Gardener car. Autosport 27 Mar 1980 p39 has a bio of Jim Evans and mentions that he had an ex-Willy Kauhsen March 762 in 1978 but sold it to Paul Gardener for 1979. Gardener wrote it off at Croft and Evans bought the wrecked to provide bits for his Special Saloon Lotus Esprit Turbo in 1980.

By the way, the Turnbull car was 762/4 - observed by Adam Ferrington when it was third-hand...

As Turnbull had 762-4, one of the two Kauhsen 762s, I'm assuming Evans had the sister car 762-11. Both chassis numbers from F1R by the way.

Does that sound reasonable?

Steve Wilkinson · 11 Sep 2006, 13:07

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Originally Posted by allenbrown

As Turnbull had 762-4, one of the two Kauhsen 762s, I'm assuming Evans had the sister car 762-11. Both chassis numbers from F1R by the way.

Does that sound reasonable?

During 1977,1978 and 1979 Allan Humphries was running a 762 in Speed events. Anyone any clues on the chassis number?

By the way Turnbull was competing in his 762 in 1979 at some of the same events Humphries was running in.

Chris Townsend · 11 Sep 2006, 13:51

MN 9.2.78 p.15 says Evans will be running the ex Willi Deutsch 762 with sponsorship from Sayers Haulage. Deutsch's car was 762-11 according to F1R. Cliff Sayer actually owned the car.

chris

allenbrown · 12 Sep 2006, 06:53

Sorry Steve but the Allan Humphries car is still a mystery. Didn't somebody say he was still in the Bristol area and were going to contact him?

Dan Rear · 12 Sep 2006, 11:12

Any evidence the Humphreys car was a genuine 762?

allenbrown · 14 Sep 2006, 16:21

772-4 Angeliri (Euroracing) for Gaudenzia Mantova F2 1977 (retubbed on monocoque 772-14 after Hockenheim and wore plate '762-6')
772-9 Built from 762-U1 - Markus Hotz for customer May 1977 ...
772-10 Built using several second hand components. To David Franklin Jan 1978 - Alan Richards 1979-80 ... John Meredith 1982 [AS 8 Apr 1982 p46] ...

1977 - The season starts:

Valflaunes 20 Mar 1977 - no 772s (Lapierre in a 762 + 1 742)
Ampus 27 Mar 1977 - Maublanc 1st (Pozet in a 762 + 2 752s and a 742)
Baglos-Sabran 27 Mar 1977 - no 772s (+ 1 742)
Cagnotte 3 Apr 1977 - no 772s (Mamers and Lateste in 762s + 1 742)
Chanas 11 Apr 1977 - no 772s (Pozet in a 762)
Tonnerre 17 Apr 1977 - Mamers 2nd, Maublanc 4th, Lapierre 6th (Pozet in a 762 + 3 752s and a 742)

However, Escappement (May 1977 p132) says of the Tonnerre event:

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Encore auréolé de sa victoire d'Ampus, P. Maublanc disposait de la toute nouvelle March 772 animée par la BMW, tandis que celle de mamers et du vanqueur 75 et 76 Lapierre d'aspect identique etaient des "reconditionnées 77".

In other words, Maublanc's car is new but the Mamers and Lapierre cars are older cars revamped. As they both drove 762s a few weeks before, one assumes they had 762/772s.

Marc Pozet is in the ex-Mieusset 762 by the way.

Chris Townsend · 6 Jan 2009, 20:42

In 1977 Mamers has the 762 sold by Maublanc to Michel Pignard [maybe chassis 18 consigned to Maublanc 5 August]
Lapierre has Maublanc's own 762 [chassis 1?]
Pozet has Mieusset's 762, delivered June 76, which is chassis 9.

If Chevanne gets a Maublanc 762 to replace the ex Depailler 742 for the Euro F2 series it must surely be the other Maublanc consigned car, chassis 2.

There's a rather good debate on autodiva.com about Alpines at the moment which is producing a lot of side information from the press cuttings

Chris

Pierpaolo · 4 Mar 2009, 19:15

I own 762-06 chassis. Does anyone know something about this car?
I bougth it nearly 10 years ago, with a few parts attached.

In Italy in the '70s many F2 cars were disassembled to build G6 sports car for climbing races.

Chris Townsend · 4 Mar 2009, 23:16

762-6 was a Ron Dennis team car in 1976, driven by Mass and Brambilla and originally fitted with the Ferrari V6 engine.

Chris