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Old 17 Dec 2008, 15:06   #31
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i want the Duke video F2 1983/4 seasons now off list can still get 82 season
and along legged blonde big boobys that can cook clean change gear ratios will compromise if she cannot cook
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i want the Duke video F2 1983/4 seasons now off list can still get 82 season
and along legged blonde big boobys that can cook clean change gear ratios will compromise if she cannot cook
What about her brunette sister Drifty?? Can I borrow those MNs after you Allen!! And then Drifty's sisters... !
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you can have the sister face like a bulldog chewing a wasp !
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Old 18 Dec 2008, 23:25   #34
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Dan, I could also buy the whole of the 1980s but have nowhere to store them. They're in really good condition too. I might have to rent storage locally - or store them in Brighton.
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Dan, I could also buy the whole of the 1980s but have nowhere to store them. They're in really good condition too. I might have to rent storage locally - or store them in Brighton.
Shame you are so far away as I have a full run of MNs from 1966 to the mid 90s.

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In that case Chris has a quick request to make of you and your scanner

Was it the Thruxton report 1973 Chris?
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Was it the Thruxton report 1973 Chris?
I'm waiting!
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dont worry steve i had to wait 1 week for an AS scan i repeatedly asked Allen for only
only got it when he rang me up and wanted something from me!!
amazingly i had the scan whilst chatting on the phone!
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Sorry Steve been putting up new light in dining room

It was indeed 1973 Thruxton F2. Does MN give chassis numbers?
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Sorry Steve been putting up new light in dining room

It was indeed 1973 Thruxton F2. Does MN give chassis numbers?
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Chris, I'll check that out tomorrow and let you know the result.

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dont worry steve i had to wait 1 week for an AS scan i repeatedly asked Allen for only
only got it when he rang me up and wanted something from me!!
amazingly i had the scan whilst chatting on the phone!
It gave me something to do while you were waffling on.
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Steve,....suggest you look at last post in Chevron B15, being a B9 fan.
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At Brands 2/9 Gethin stood in for Chris Williams who was ill. It certainly would be logical that he had the B9B and won with it even though the Autosport report I quoted implies it was Rollinson. In fact this is confirmed by the Autosport report two weeks later of Zolder where it says "Wiliams having the 68/69 development car driven by Gethin at Brands"

The following comments from MNs in 1968 might clarify some points in some of the previous posts (hopefully, it does not muddy the waters).

Chris Williams (Red Rose) damaged his car at the Martini Silverstone meeting. He was “pushed of at Copse by Per-Jonas Qvarnstrom … the fuel tank was ripped away and spilled its contents over all the electrics”. [MN 1-8-68]

“Chris’ car is being rebuilt with a new frame (for type-number fans, it will be the first B15-type chassis) using the suspension from the damaged car.” Alan Rollinson’s car was expected to be rebuilt to the specification. [MN 15-8-68]

At the Guards meeting at Brands Hatch Peter Gethin (Chris Williams was under doctor’s orders) won the second heat and final. “The car does not have a genuine monocoque centre section … in fact retains the same chassis. However sheet steel is welded to the sides of the cockpit and on the undertray and appear successful in making the chassis more rigid. ... A superb first outing for the brand-new Chevron which had not turned a wheel before Saturday.” [MN 5-9-68]

MN 14-11-68 published a list of Chevron type numbers. The B9B is called the “plated” F3 chassis raced by Peter Gethin and Chris Williams.
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Early Chassis Interpretation

I just thought i,d post this diagram that i,ve put together as to how the early chassis/frame no's were originally identified when new.
I've used a non existant B10 as an example.
Unfortunately most of these period cars from 1968 - 70 suffered front end damage somewhere in their current history,plus there is an abundance of blank chassis plates still around.
In fact i still have a few in my toolbox from that particular period.
Plus original chassis were totally written off & replaced & not always stamped.
However ......... it does explain in pictorial form what is hard to explain in writing!
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That's very useful. On many of the cars that had frames built by Arch Motors (March, Brabham, Lotus, Palliser, etc, etc), there was no alignment between the AM number and the chassis number. Was this also the case on Chevrons? I expected to see no agreement but on a number of the B19s where I'm reasonably confident about their identity, the chassis number and the AM number agree. For example, B19-24 has AM number "AM 71 B19 24" and B19-29 has AM number "AM 71 B19 29".

Would you expect chassis numbers to match AM numbers on these early cars?
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