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Old 21 Jun 2007, 17:17   #1
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1994 FiA Touring Car World Cup Grid.

After watching the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eFu...elated&search=) I was wondering, how many cars gridded up for this race? It's absolutely unreal!
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Old 21 Jun 2007, 17:47   #2
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This is the grid of 1995 World Cup:
http://www.supertouringregister.com/.../series/88.php

Very impressive!
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1994 list.. 40 entries..

1 m.duez-bmw 318is
2 t.tassin-bmw 318is
3 a.menu-renault laguna
4 b.thuner-peugeot 405 mi16
5 v.bervid-bmw 318is
6 m.bychi-bmw 318is
7 m.bartels-nissan primera gte
8 f. biela-audi 80 quattro
9 m.oestreich-ford mondeo ghia
10 h.stuck-audi 80 quattro
11 j.winkelhock-bmw 318is
12 a.albacete-opel vectra gt
13 a.campos-alfa romeo 155ts
14 c.palau-ford mondeo ghia
15 l.perez sala-nissan primera gte
16 l.villamil-alfa romeo 155ts
17 a.cudini-opel vectra gt
18 p.gache-ford mondeo ghia
19 y.muller-bmw 318is
20 j.cleland-vauxhall cavalier gsi
21 r.gravett-ford mondeo ghia
22 a.reid-vauxhall cavalier gsi
23 s.soper-bmw 318is
24 p.watts-peugeot 405 mi16
25 s.modena-alfa romeo 155ts
26 e.pirro-audi 80 quattro
27 r.ravaglia-bmw 318is
28 a.tamburini-alfa romeo 155ts
29 g.tarquini-alfa romeo 155ts
30 j.lammers-volvo 850 glt
31 p.radisich-ford mondeo ghia
32 p.gunnar andersson-bmw 318is
33 s.borgudd-mazda xedos 6
34 j.cecotto-bmw 318is
35 s.van de linde-bmw 318is
40 j.bailey-toyota carina e gt
41 t.harvey-renault laguna
42 w.hoy-toyota carina e gt
43 d.leslie-renault laguna
44 m.neal-mazda 323 lantis
45 k.o'dor-nissan primera gte
46 r.rydell-volvo 850 glt
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Wow that was complete carnage. I looked at the grid lining up and thought, how on earth are they going to get round Redgate...turns out half of them didn't even get that far!

As for the 1995 grid, that's pretty damn impressive. I mean look at the quality lining up at the back of that grid, particularly the last five rows! Great range of cars too.
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Yep, those were the golden years of ST! Something like 10+ global ST championships, abeit some only had 4-5 car starting grids...

Peaking in '96 with something like 14 ST championships or series with ST classes!
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Anyone have a list of all ST series ver run? Either full ST serie or with an ST class in it?
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Anyone have a list of all ST series ver run? Either full ST serie or with an ST class in it?
This is a good ST website:
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Yes, I'm perfectly aware of that great site, however, the list is nowhere near compleat on all ST series ever run, sadly.
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Great site FIRE, got any more info on any of the 405 or 406 Peugeots?
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Here's also some ST info:
http://www.motorsport.com/news/list.asp?O=C&K=TOURING
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Was Nissan at that time already part of Renault? (I think not, not until late 90s, early 00s?). And Volvo and Mazda part of Ford?

Why was ST so succesful at that time? Was it because there were more independent manufacturers? Formula 1 was not dominating like nowadays?
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After watching the beginning of this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8eFu...elated&search=) I was wondering, how many cars gridded up for this race? It's absolutely unreal!
As the incident officer at Red Gate we were running a book on how far they would get. I was out by 10 feet
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I wish i could have seen the ST era
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I wish i could have seen the ST era
While you obviously can't see it live anymore, there's always the Year in Review tapes from the BTCC. Then there are some rare videos of ASTC/STW, World Cup, Macau Guia...

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Anyone have a list of all ST series ver run? Either full ST serie or with an ST class in it?
Depends if consider Class 2 to be early ST as well. ST didn't officially start until '95, but then ST is basically Class 2 with wings/aero aids.

We could start assembling the list here and then put it on Redshoes supertouring register later! Touring Car World Annual is definitely a good source of info! But from memory, here's what I recall. Please feel free to correct my dates or add to list.

ASTC - ST series, then ST class (1995-02)
BTCC - ST series. (1994-00)
APTCC (Asia Pacific) then renamed SEATCZC (Southeast Asia Touring Car Zone Challenge) - ST class (1994-99)
ETCC - ST series (99-01)
FSTC (French ST championship) - ST series, then ST class (1994-98)
ITC - (Italy) - ST series, then ST class, (1994-98)
JTCC - (Japan) - ST series (1994-98)
NATCC - North America ST series (1996-97)
NTCC - (Nordic Touring Car Championship) - ST Class (1995-97)
PTCC (Portugese) - ST class (1994-95)
Belgian Pro Car - ST series, then ST class (1994-98)
SATCC (South African) - (1994-97) ST series
STCC - Swedish series (1995-00)
RTCC (Russian Touring Car Championship) - ST class (1995-00)
STW - German ST series (1994-00)
Sud Am (south American) - ST series (1996-98)

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