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14 May 2001, 08:48
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Who's the best starter in the field??
Who's the best starter in the field?? If there was a championship for the best starter, than I think this would be the ranking:
1. Jos Verstappen
2. Juan Pablo Montoya
3. Ralph Schumacher
What do you think??
A die hard Villeneuve fan!!
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14 May 2001, 15:41
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The BMW techy who came up with Williams' launch control system.
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14 May 2001, 16:01
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those who can use their system without stalling it.
but seriously, i'd say villeneuve. he's off like a ferret out of a sack a lot of the time...
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14 May 2001, 16:04
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This race it has to be DC.
We are comparing to teammates here right?
(DC had a brilliant start nonetheless, right up the inside of Schumacher who started on pole while DC started uhm....7th right?)
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14 May 2001, 16:08
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It wasn't that long ago that Villeneuve was the worst starter in the field! Remember 1996 and 1997? He was guaranteed to lose 2 places or more... I guess he learned...
And yes, the Williams launch control engineers.
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14 May 2001, 16:25
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Without launch control, which takes away all the skill of the start, Alesi and Villeneuve are the ones to beat.
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14 May 2001, 16:55
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Quote:
Originally posted by Minardi fan
Without launch control, which takes away all the skill of the start, Alesi and Villeneuve are the ones to beat.
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Totally agree with you, MF. And at least Jacques' starting ability equals that of most launch controls, at least that of BAR (I don't know if he used it in Austria, but for sure he didn't in Spain).
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14 May 2001, 17:11
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DC was fine off the line but really blew his first corner. He was alongside TGF but braked way to early and just let third place slip through his fingers.
We know know which zillion dolar teams are just wasting their money on booze, coke and go-go girls, but shouldn't they be a little ashamed to have some many cars left stranded and some really crippling off the line? If F1 proved anything last weekend it's that's still as non-professional as any hillclimber basically.
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14 May 2001, 17:18
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I think it will be very hard to compare them.
Jos usually makes up a lot of places during the first round.
The Ralf and Montoya are often on one of the front rows. So they simply can not pass the same number of drivers during the first kilometer.
But nobody can tell what Jos would do if he were to start from one of the front rows. I would expect the competition to be a lot harder over there.
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14 May 2001, 17:36
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Whoever can press the button first!! (and no I'm NOT talking about Jenson  Don't you lot start on me again!)
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14 May 2001, 18:19
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Well rumours are that several teams are using Verstappencontrol instead of launchcontrol next race
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14 May 2001, 18:33
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14 May 2001, 19:21
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Steve> Jos wasn't ecceptionaly quick out of the startingblocks. Bernoldi was ahead of him up to the first corner. Well, since you are comparing him to launchcontrol and all. It's not a matter of reflex, just a matter of getting around the chaos. Launchcontrol doesn't do that for you.
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14 May 2001, 19:39
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Quote:
Originally posted by Quino
Steve> Jos wasn't ecceptionaly quick out of the startingblocks. Bernoldi was ahead of him up to the first corner. Well, since you are comparing him to launchcontrol and all. It's not a matter of reflex, just a matter of getting around the chaos. Launchcontrol doesn't do that for you.
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I think that is exactly what makes Jos (look like) a great starter.
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14 May 2001, 21:02
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Nobody's perfect, you can't expect them to do amazingly every time and Villeneuve doesn't seem to be starting as brilliantly as he was last year.
F1 racing magazine last September said it could be because the engine had enough mid-range torque to run a lower 1st gear than most, putting them ahead of their mid-grid rivals. Or something like that, I didn't really get it.
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