Tech Issue 2011 Pirelli tyres - Page 14

cmotd · 11 Mar 2011, 23:42 (Ref:2844279)

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During a meeting with F1 teams and drivers at Barcelona this week, the issue of tyres was reportedly discussed at length with the FIA’s Charlie Whiting.
Whiting reportedly said his discussions with Pirelli have made clear there will be three pitstops per driver at most grands prix this year.
But during a race simulation in Barcelona this week, Sebastien Buemi stopped four times

add to that the pressure of racing and it may be 5 stops on some tracks for teams with cars of less than red bull/ferrari standard, pretty crazy

Marbot · 12 Mar 2011, 10:38 (Ref:2844395)

During the last couple of days testing (Wednesday, Thursday), when track temperatures were slightly higher, most teams managed to get more laps with less degradation out of a set of Pirelli tyres. There were also less 'marbles'. It has also been estimated that the Barcelona GP may require three stops.

**GTRMagic** · 12 Mar 2011, 23:37 (Ref:2844732)

Will there be a brush sweeper or air blowing vehicle going out during safety cars to clean away the marbles off the side of the circuit?

cmotd · 12 Mar 2011, 23:49 (Ref:2844742)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Will there be a brush sweeper or air blowing vehicle going out during safety cars to clean away the marbles off the side of the circuit?

It would be nice but as far as I know only one circuit on the F1 calandar has invested in such technology & it was used for the first time last year, can't remember where it was though

**GTRMagic** · 13 Mar 2011, 01:36 (Ref:2844783)

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Originally Posted by cmotd

It would be nice but as far as I know only one circuit on the F1 calandar has invested in such technology & it was used for the first time last year, can't remember where it was though

Mr Ecclestone could add the equipment to the Safety Car and the F1 cars and equipment and fly it in perhaps

cmotd · 13 Mar 2011, 05:52 (Ref:2844808)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr Ecclestone could add the equipment to the Safety Car and the F1 cars and equipment and fly it in perhaps

hmm, in the current financial climate that's about as likely as my b@lls getting an Academy Award for best animated feature

**GTRMagic** · 13 Mar 2011, 07:17 (Ref:2844822)

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Originally Posted by cmotd

hmm, in the current financial climate that's about as likely as my b@lls getting an Academy Award for best animated feature

Mr Ecclestone's financial climate is always fine

Especially if he can make Pirelli pay for them, painted suitably in yellow..

**Bononi** · 13 Mar 2011, 13:43 (Ref:2844955)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr Ecclestone's financial climate is always fine

Especially if he can make Pirelli pay for them, painted suitably in yellow..

Exactly !

wnut · 13 Mar 2011, 21:32 (Ref:2845187)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Will there be a brush sweeper or air blowing vehicle going out during safety cars to clean away the marbles off the side of the circuit?

Has the time come to run the GPs in two heats?

Marbot · 14 Mar 2011, 08:11 (Ref:2845317)

I don't think Pirelli need worry about 'marbles'.

Did people stop buying Mercedes when Kimi's engines were blowing up?

Did people stop buying Renault's when Vettel's engines were letting go?

Did people stop buying Ferrari's pre-96?

Whatever happens, someone will win with Pirelli tyres fitted.

And anyway, it's not like no one ever won a race by having done 4 pit stops.

Bring it on!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Mar 2011, 08:18 (Ref:2845320)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

Bring it on!

I'm certainly looking forward to it.

Marbot · 14 Mar 2011, 08:38 (Ref:2845328)

One thing Pirelli could do is bring one set per car of very hard tyres that will last a race distance. That will be an extra 48 tyres per race.

You can use them if you like. But the problem will always be that it'll be a no-brainer to use one strategy over the other because F1 teams are so precise with their strategies these days. So you may end up back in 2005...but only worse because there'll be no pit stops!

cmotd · 14 Mar 2011, 23:30 (Ref:2845876)

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Originally Posted by Marbot

One thing Pirelli could do is bring one set per car of very hard tyres that will last a race distance. That will be an extra 48 tyres per race.

You can use them if you like. But the problem will always be that it'll be a no-brainer to use one strategy over the other because F1 teams are so precise with their strategies these days. So you may end up back in 2005...but only worse because there'll be no pit stops!

Pirelli couldn't do that on their own, the FIA would have to change the regulations first - unlikely as it was them that asked for the fast-wearing tyres in the first place?

Marbot · 15 Mar 2011, 00:04 (Ref:2845892)

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Originally Posted by cmotd

Pirelli couldn't do that on their own,

Nor would they bother to tbh, for the reason stated.

Could be a better idea to do two stops on the harder tyres, rather than three or four on the softer tyre....if you can!

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Originally Posted by cmotd

the FIA would have to change the regulations first - unlikely as it was them that asked for the fast-wearing tyres in the first place?

Indeed. It was the FIA, FOTA and FOM that asked Pirelli for tyres that would last for 20 laps, max.

skells22 · 18 Mar 2011, 16:04 (Ref:2848184)

we got news about how to find out which car is on which tyres.
wet- Orange
Inter- light blue
super soft - red
soft - Yellow
Medium- White
Hard- Silver
Just look at the Pirelli logo when the F1 cars go onto track.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 18 Mar 2011, 16:08 (Ref:2848187)

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Originally Posted by skells22

we got news about how to find out which car is on which tyres.
wet- Orange
Inter- light blue
super soft - red
soft - Yellow
Medium- White
Hard- Silver
Just look at the Pirelli logo when the F1 cars go onto track.

I feel sorry for the guy who has to paint them up.

Alex777 · 18 Mar 2011, 17:43 (Ref:2848256)

Click & See Pirelli Hi-Resolution Photos

fourWheelDrift · 18 Mar 2011, 18:48 (Ref:2848289)

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Originally Posted by skells22

we got news about how to find out which car is on which tyres.
wet- Orange
Inter- light blue
super soft - red
soft - Yellow
Medium- White
Hard- Silver
Just look at the Pirelli logo when the F1 cars go onto track.

Ah, the first rational argument I've ever seen for getting an HD telly, I bet it'll be almost impossible to tell the yellow, white and silver apart on the box!

Marbot · 18 Mar 2011, 18:55 (Ref:2848292)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

Ah, the first rational argument I've ever seen for getting an HD telly, I bet it'll be almost impossible to tell the yellow, white and silver apart on the box!

White and Silver will not be run together since Pirelli are still keeping the tyres a step apart. So you will have Yellow and Silver for some races (first few) and then Red and White for other races (Monaco etc). Wet and intermediate tyres are easily identifiable.

dyewat808 · 18 Mar 2011, 20:45 (Ref:2848490)

Why have they put full wet tyres as orange? Why not those as blue?

This is going to be damned confusing...

Marbot · 18 Mar 2011, 20:58 (Ref:2848496)

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Originally Posted by dyewat808

Why have they put full wet tyres as orange? Why not those as blue?

This is going to be damned confusing...

Oh, it's just so damn complicated!

Knowlesy · 18 Mar 2011, 23:16 (Ref:2848541)

Six different colours.

Typical case of pandering to the more retarded fan and then inadvertently making the whole thing unnecessarily contrived, complicated and gimmicky.

I mean really?

Whatever happened to trying to work stuff out for yourself?

Matt · 18 Mar 2011, 23:20 (Ref:2848543)

seriously? thats so friggen dumb.

just run yellow ones so they look good.

Spritle · 19 Mar 2011, 01:10 (Ref:2848590)

No sooner will you figure out what tyres a driver is on and they will be back in the pits for a new set...

**bjohnsonsmith** · 19 Mar 2011, 01:22 (Ref:2848600)

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Originally Posted by Spritle

No sooner will you figure out what tyres a driver is on and they will be back in the pits for a new set...

Let's hope the teams know which set is which, or we could be in for a rather colorful time.

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