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Old 3 Nov 2007, 14:38 (Ref:2058602)   #76
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"I won't stop doing things with Mercedes though. We will announce something soon."
i heard there is a free cockpit at mclaren
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Old 3 Nov 2007, 15:03 (Ref:2058631)   #77
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Old 3 Nov 2007, 17:16 (Ref:2058699)   #78
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helgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
DTM is going to get new antifans,as it had happened after Alesi retirement.
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 07:38 (Ref:2059111)   #79
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So who will take Häkkinen's place in new Mercedes car. Paffett and di Resta had older cars this year, I think one of those will go to new car then.
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 07:52 (Ref:2059117)   #80
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helgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridhelgi should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
I think,Paffett will.Di Resta will get 07 car.It won't be slower than the latest spec.So Mercedes is getting two competitive cars in their battle for the first places.From this point of view,Mercedes became even more stronger.
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 08:32 (Ref:2059130)   #81
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I think Di Resta will. He was faster than Paffett all year. If Di Resta doesn't deserve a new car for what he has achieved this year, no one does
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 10:44 (Ref:2059202)   #82
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Di Resta?
Paffet?
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 13:04 (Ref:2059274)   #83
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 20:21 (Ref:2059539)   #84
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Alex K has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
:-o Whoz wrong with him?
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 20:25 (Ref:2059544)   #85
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:-o Whoz wrong with him?
I don't think Ellmau was around when Albers was in the series
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 22:21 (Ref:2059644)   #86
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I don't expect Albers to be back in the DTM for Mercedes, IIRC there was no "friendly" split (Albers talking to F1 teams without informing Mercedes).

He certainly wasn't bad in DTM though.
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 22:47 (Ref:2059658)   #87
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Bramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridBramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridBramzel should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
He still is good friends with Norbert Haug though, so it could still be an option.
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Old 4 Nov 2007, 22:59 (Ref:2059667)   #88
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He still is good friends with Norbert Haug though, so it could still be an option.
Again I must say, although a little less loud. Have you missed their fight at Zandvoort in his last year in DTM? Ok, in the end they kissed and made up, but their relationship has cooled down a lot.

And yes, Albers has performed in DTM before, but that has been a while. In the mean time, he's made himselve look like a complete idiot in F1, and you know how it goes, you're as good as your last race. I don't believe Albers would be prefered for a 2008 car over drivers like Di Resta or Paffett.
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Old 5 Nov 2007, 15:53 (Ref:2060341)   #89
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To be honest I don't think Albers will get a 2008 car, but a 2007 car would not suprise me. In Holland the interest in DTM has decreased the last few years. To give DTM a boost a Dutch driver at Mercedes or Audi would help.
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Old 5 Nov 2007, 18:35 (Ref:2060471)   #90
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To be honest I don't think Albers will get a 2008 car, but a 2007 car would not suprise me. In Holland the interest in DTM has decreased the last few years. To give DTM a boost a Dutch driver at Mercedes or Audi would help.
I think Jeroen would be a better choise to that, don't you think so?
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Old 5 Nov 2007, 21:09 (Ref:2060572)   #91
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He's quick too. I don't know if he's a better choice. IMO Bleekemolen has to focus on one series instead of all these drives in Porsche Supercup, LMS, BRL, A1GP, etcetera. Despite I am not a fan of Albers he showed his talent when he drove in the factory Mercedes team.

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Old 5 Nov 2007, 21:18 (Ref:2060577)   #92
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Other than that, if you're a manufacteror and want to spend not so big bucks targeting the European market (i.e. no F1), Le Mans would be my main choice. It's well-known, easily marketable and affordable (well, relatively), and you'll reach people all over Europe and more. What would you rather have, "Le Mans winner" or "DTM winner" on your car outside of Germany? I know what I would pick.
I personally would pick WTCC and/or national TCCs - you can develop one model of car and have a bigger presence by running cheaper outfits in the UK/Sweden, or even by flogging your older cars to them.
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Old 6 Nov 2007, 18:44 (Ref:2061407)   #93
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He's quick too. I don't know if he's a better choice. IMO Bleekemolen has to focus on one series instead of all these drives in Porsche Supercup, LMS, BRL, A1GP, etcetera. Despite I am not a fan of Albers he showed his talent when he drove in the factory Mercedes team.
I don't think he has that much choice. Since he lost his seat in DTM he had nothing left. He drove in BRL that year and won the championship easilly. A1GP is for the winter and the Porsche Supercup came unexpectedly this year because he won the first race he drove this year at monaco. Pure coïnsidence.

I'm not a fan too of Albers, and yes he showed his talent in 2005. But that is already two years ago.
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Old 6 Nov 2007, 18:46 (Ref:2061409)   #94
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I personally would pick WTCC and/or national TCCs - you can develop one model of car and have a bigger presence by running cheaper outfits in the UK/Sweden, or even by flogging your older cars to them.
I agree, mostly because people can identify their car with the one that's racing in TC, whereas LMP cars never even look like road cars.
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 19:00 (Ref:2065861)   #95
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I agree, mostly because people can identify their car with the one that's racing in TC, whereas LMP cars never even look like road cars.
Yeah, look at the Pug ... if you peeled of the badges I couldn't tell it was a Pug.
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 19:27 (Ref:2065890)   #96
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Yeah, look at the Pug ... if you peeled of the badges I couldn't tell it was a Pug.
Not quite. With the rather pronounced noses on the new road-going Pugs, there is a little bit of similarity.
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Old 13 Nov 2007, 07:28 (Ref:2066265)   #97
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I doubt that the average car-buyer would see that resemblance without having loads of beer.
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Old 13 Nov 2007, 09:16 (Ref:2066309)   #98
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According to motorsport-total.com Mercedes will select one of Di Resta, Paffett, Margaritis and la Rosa to replace Mika in the 08 cars.
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Which could hint that they're expecting to loose of their three remaining drivers? Otherwise I couldn't imagine that de la Rosa or Margaritis would be that near an 08 car. Spengler to F1?
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According to motorsport-total.com Mercedes will select one of Di Resta, Paffett, Margaritis and la Rosa to replace Mika in the 08 cars.
See also http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=1602
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