Round 4: Mosport 22-24 July 2011 - Page 6

Purist · 23 Jul 2011, 20:21 (Ref:2930231)

I've been using the link from the ALMS' own homepage for "Inside the United States".

I don't have ESPN3, but the feed I've been getting is plenty good for me to follow.

Dani Filth · 23 Jul 2011, 20:21 (Ref:2930232)

http://www.americanlemans.com/primar...at=live&feed=2

this works for me .... but qualy is ...............

Audi Racer · 23 Jul 2011, 20:22 (Ref:2930233)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

Well after all it's running lighter and with bigger restrictors

no its not. its only lighter by not much.

The Corvettes are really out of it this season.they havent looked very good at all....

Darn Andrea Robertson! It's not ladies first on the track.

she completely ruined Toni Vilander's lap....and its not like she was even going fast....Same goes for Bryce Miller...Get.out .of.the.way.

FordCosworthPanoz · 23 Jul 2011, 20:23 (Ref:2930234)

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Originally Posted by Dani Filth

http://www.americanlemans.com/primar...at=live&feed=2

this works for me .... but qualy is ...............

THANK YOU!

fieldodreams79 · 23 Jul 2011, 20:23 (Ref:2930235)

Field pushing too hard? Never.

Ultimo · 23 Jul 2011, 20:25 (Ref:2930236)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dani Filth

http://www.americanlemans.com/primar...at=live&feed=2

this works for me .... but qualy is ...............

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

THANK YOU!

Indeed, many thanks!

Where was this hidden?

Deleted · 23 Jul 2011, 20:27 (Ref:2930237)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

The Porsche didn't get a bigger restrictor, it only got 25kg of weight taken off prior to Lime Rock and then 15kg put back on after, the BMW's are the ones running with drainage pipes for restrictors.

It's still running with the -25kg ballast as the BoP changes we're delayed til' Mid-Ohio, however while it hasn't recently received any restrictor adjustments from IMSA aren't Porkies still running with 0,3mm bigger ones than 458 (0,6 if we believe the ACO charts)?

AGD · 23 Jul 2011, 20:27 (Ref:2930238)

ALMS Radio is working! It only took 3/4ths of the session, but...

fieldodreams79 · 23 Jul 2011, 20:28 (Ref:2930239)

How much duct tape is holding the Autocon together?

FordCosworthPanoz · 23 Jul 2011, 20:30 (Ref:2930240)

Klaus Graf wow!

FordCosworthPanoz · 23 Jul 2011, 20:32 (Ref:2930241)

The Autocon Lola looks like its running in a completely different class than the Aston. Look at it pull away on the straights.

Purist · 23 Jul 2011, 20:34 (Ref:2930243)

I like that, Luhr referring to Mosport as "the little Nordschleife".

AGD · 23 Jul 2011, 20:34 (Ref:2930244)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

How much duct tape is holding the Autocon together?

Lola did some work on the car during the off-season, but the car is ancient for sure.

Will the Autocon car out-qualify the LMPCs? Jon Field said he would evaluate the performance of the Autocon car to see if it is worth rolling the LMP1 out again, but this isn't optimistic.

Good showing by Kane, but it is surprising that Dyson is letting Dyson qualify the #16. Well, maybe not.

Deleted · 23 Jul 2011, 20:37 (Ref:2930245)

I was expecting Autocon to fall apart in the race (and still am) but I didn't think their one-lap pace was gonna be this pathetic. Even with the added restrictors

Audi Racer · 23 Jul 2011, 20:39 (Ref:2930246)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

The Porsche didn't get a bigger restrictor, it only got 25kg of weight taken off prior to Lime Rock and then 15kg put back on after, the BMW's are the ones running with drainage pipes for restrictors.

.....No.....actually the Fords are running Drainage Pipes dude.....

I dont understand why people can;t get it into their head....Di you see how fast Andrea Robertson went doen the straight... She pulled vilander by 3-4 car lengths...in a Ford GT.....That shows you that a big restricor doesnt mean anything....The BMW actually turns and stops well...And its on DUNLOPS.give credit where it's due.

Purist · 23 Jul 2011, 20:39 (Ref:2930247)

Given the drivers involved, I think Jon Field could whip the #37 LMP1 around in the 1:09s, even with the current restrictions. I'm just not sure how many laps he'd be able to keep it on pace for.

Maybe they'd do better to pull the turbos off that V8 and get a bigger restrictor.

Audi Racer · 23 Jul 2011, 20:41 (Ref:2930248)

why do all intersport cars break down?.....are they banging rev limiters or botching the downshifts...they have too many mechanical issues that no one else has.

Purist · 23 Jul 2011, 20:46 (Ref:2930250)

Jon Field has two speeds, "damn fast" and "oh my God, he's off the track". And that doesn't do any favors to the car's durability.

NightStalk3r · 23 Jul 2011, 20:47 (Ref:2930251)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

.....No.....actually the Fords are running Drainage Pipes dude.....

I dont understand why people can;t get it into their head....Di you see how fast Andrea Robertson went doen the straight... She pulled vilander by 3-4 car lengths...in a Ford GT.....That shows you that a big restricor doesnt mean anything....The BMW actually turns and stops well...And its on DUNLOPS.give credit where it's due.

Exactly the Ford needs the bigger restrictors to remain even remotely competitive, the BMW doesn't need them yet still has them...

Audi Racer · 23 Jul 2011, 21:40 (Ref:2930261)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Exactly the Ford needs the bigger restrictors to remain even remotely competitive, the BMW doesn't need them yet still has them...

well that's funny....because i recall you guys calling the BMW painfully slow without the restrictors......Contradictions...contradictions....

FordCosworthPanoz · 23 Jul 2011, 22:02 (Ref:2930266)

1998 FIA GT all over again, might as well split the GT class.

GTA: BMW
GTB Pro: Rest of the field, Pro
GTB Am: Rest of the field, Am
GTC: Jaguar.

Hope people are enjoying the BMW parade.

arakis · 23 Jul 2011, 22:28 (Ref:2930270)

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Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

The Porsche didn't get a bigger restrictor, it only got 25kg of weight taken off prior to Lime Rock and then 15kg put back on after, the BMW's are the ones running with drainage pipes for restrictors.

actualy the 15kg is after this race, also they are running 0.3mm larger restrictors since the start of the season, in ACO sancioned championships

agree about the BMWs dough

lets wait and see what happens tomorow, so far Ferrari hansnt had a trouble free race from the begining of the season, and they have shown they can beat BMW regularly in Europe....

BTW here is a post from Risis Facebook page
Toni qualified 5th for tomorrow's Mobil 1 Grand Prix of Mosport. It was busy out there and, once his tires had come up to temp, he found traffic on every lap. At least we're not at the back though like at Lime Rock.

P.S. I didnt watch the quali, so it could be just driver excuses..

Audi Racer · 23 Jul 2011, 22:54 (Ref:2930276)

Quote:

Originally Posted by arakis

P.S. I didnt watch the quali, so it could be just driver excuses..

he got held up in big ways...once by the paul miller porsche. another time by andrea robertson who want even on a qualy lap.. she just runied his lap and refused to let him bye

arakis · 23 Jul 2011, 23:01 (Ref:2930278)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

well that's funny....because i recall you guys calling the BMW painfully slow without the restrictors......Contradictions...contradictions....

I seriosly don't get what you don't get... we have been beating this dead horse for months now..

1. BMW was uncopetitive without the restrictor break
2. BMW was given a restrictor break, but still remained uncompetitive.
3. BMW has developed the car to becomeing verry competive last year.
4. BMW has developed the car some more and now apears to be the fastet car.
5. thus there is no need for the restrictor break anymore, and makes the competition tainted becouse they are getting much more help then anyone else.

it is simply time for the ACO or IMSA to cut them down to just beeing competitve, and keep cuting them down until they are just within 0.5% of the rest, without any restrictors breakes, and let thier speed be a true measure of their development not a combination of Development and artificial boosts

**joeb** · 24 Jul 2011, 00:39 (Ref:2930288)

So Muscle Milk is on the pole again this year, but nearly 2 seconds slower than last year with the Porsche!

Also there was this at the bottom of the q'ing results on the alms site:

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Car 99 moved to the back of the grid - 9.3.2 of the 2011 ALMS SSR (driver failed to achieve minimum qualifying laptime)

Ouch.

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