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Old 19 Apr 2003, 22:44 (Ref:574391)   #1
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Strategy for tomorrow?

Based on the difference in time between today qualif and Friday's one, can we assume that most are on the same strategy except for Alonso, Da Matta, Heidfeld, Panis and Wilson? It looks to me that these guys were light as their times were very close to the their friday's times??

M. Schumacher 1.699
R. Schumacher 1.148
R. Barrichello 1.475
J.P. Montoya 1.299
M. Webber 1.346
K. Räikkönen 1.001
J. Villeneuve 1.234
F. Alonso 0.36
J. Button 1.49
O. Panis 0.695
N. Heidfeld 0.789
D. Coulthard 1.492
C. da Matta -1.016
H. Frentzen 1.401
A. Pizzonia 1.228
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Old 19 Apr 2003, 22:49 (Ref:574394)   #2
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"I don't know how much fuel Williams have got on board but we're feeling comfortable with the strategy we've chosen and I think we'll have a good race," said Brawn. "We've chosen a strategy that suits our tyres and we couldn't be in a better position with the fuel load we have."

So!! how many stops are the Williams going to make. And is McLaren going to start with lotsa fuel like they sometimes do?
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Old 19 Apr 2003, 22:51 (Ref:574397)   #3
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3 stop: toyota
2 stop: everyone but.....mclaren.1 stop

race for 1st...tgf v kimi......if dry
if wet.........fisi

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Old 19 Apr 2003, 22:56 (Ref:574400)   #4
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Why not 3 stop for Alonso and Heidfeld too? The difference in time is significant IMHO
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Old 19 Apr 2003, 22:57 (Ref:574403)   #5
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We seem to be overlooking the fact that a Minardi will win this race. They are clearly the best package out there. They will be utterly invincicle!
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Old 19 Apr 2003, 23:11 (Ref:574408)   #6
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I dont think anyone is planning a 3 stopper. IMO they are all planning to stop twice. Its just a matter of how early they plan to come in for the first stop
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Old 19 Apr 2003, 23:21 (Ref:574417)   #7
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But coming early is a very bad strategy unless you plan on a three stopper...isn't it?
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 00:00 (Ref:574437)   #8
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Alonso and Renault had many problems yesterday, so Nando´s times on Friday weren´t significant.
Renault won´t go to three stops...........
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 00:21 (Ref:574448)   #9
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I can't see anyone making three stops if they want to finish at the right end of the field, i think all the top teams will be on two stoppers.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 00:56 (Ref:574459)   #10
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One thing we've seen so far this year is that radical differences in fuel have not existed. Everyone though Webber and Fisi were running light in Brazil. I expect Williams are not now running a radical fuel stratagy.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 03:21 (Ref:574519)   #11
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Have to agree with the theory that everyone is on a 2 stopper, some just a little earlier than others.

The also think the jag is alot faster than people think. All performances are being written off as light fuel. So how does one explain their race pace in Melbourne, Sepang and Brazil. Webber was running top 10 in every race.

And the big give away, Friday qualifying. I think Webber is playing the team game of talking everything down. What team says we are only this fast because of light fuel. None, they all try to get some free publicity out of it even when it is'nt true.

Look for a jag on the podiam this year.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 03:29 (Ref:574525)   #12
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Radical strategies dont work! Its that simple. The teams took the time that they had to see whats the heaviest they can run and still keep a good pace. IMO, most of qualifying, Friday and Saturday does represent the teams pace. There are a few exceptions ofcourse.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 04:03 (Ref:574527)   #13
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The also think the jag is alot faster than people think. All performances are being written off as light fuel. So how does one explain their race pace in Melbourne, Sepang and Brazil. Webber was running top 10 in every race.

Its Webber, man... its Webber.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 07:31 (Ref:574575)   #14
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Didn't Webber say in an interview they were running a bit lighter than before.

I agree with many above. This has to be a 2-stopper, with some doing a short first stint. With it being tough to overtake - I can't imagine teams planning to come in three times.

I guess some of it depends on the weather too. Aren't showers possible - which would naff up all the best laid plans!


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Old 20 Apr 2003, 07:37 (Ref:574576)   #15
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I think Fisichella said in an interview during saturday qualifying, that they were running with a lot of fuel.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 08:29 (Ref:574597)   #16
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What one stopping?
I guess its feasible to try an avoid getting stuck behind others!
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 09:04 (Ref:574619)   #17
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Webber stated that he was running light, i think EJ liked the look of a heavy car running on inters i think they have fulled it heavy gambling that the track never completly drys.
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Williams have tended to run heavier than most this year, but looking at those times, perhaps not today.

Webber is running a little light, but I don't think it's so light that he'll be on 3 stops or anything (judging by his interview he gave afterwards).
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 09:21 (Ref:574633)   #19
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I hope you are right Adam 3stopper at Imola not the best idea for corse unless it rains ?
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The Australian driver revealed to the channel ten network that he will be partaking in a three stop strategy at Imola and he suspects that BAR drivers Jacques Villeneuve and Jenson Button, who qualified seventh and ninth, have the same agenda and possibly the Sauber duo as well.

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Old 20 Apr 2003, 11:11 (Ref:574713)   #21
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Renault have indeed had a tough weekend - Imola is a power circuit and that doesn't suit their engine. They have improved over the weekend, which Trulli wasn't able to show due to being in the spare, set for Alonso. I think they might've fuelled Jarno up as much as possible as a damage limitation exercise, so maybe 1 stop for him and 2 for Alonso.

Not really on topic, but I'm imrpessed by how quickly Da Matta has adjusted to the track, going 1 second faster once fuelled-up is highly impressive. I'm not sure Toyota are running light.
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I agree with Dutton entirely.

How can Verstappen continue to be this unlucky?
His first win is surely just around the corner.
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Old 20 Apr 2003, 13:30 (Ref:574758)   #23
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Well this shows that we know very little about F1. Webbers start really destroyed BAR's race but so goes it. At least we know the BAR's are fast. They are just behind Renault IMO and better than them on power tracks.
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Eveyone on 3s! Ross Brawn hinted they chose this strategy because of teh tyres rather than qualifying.

But McClaren on 1 stop less.
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Don't think that Williams banked on a 4 stopper for JPM.

With regards to McLarens 2 stopper, it's obvious to see who is the faster driver of the pairing.

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