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Old 19 Dec 2004, 05:51 (Ref:1182972)   #1
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The Speed Merchants 1972

Just watched this documentary this evening, with Andretti, Elford, Redman etc.

I'm sure its been talked about here before, but wanted to put down how impressed I was by it. Unlike others films of its era, I found it stood out in that it is not dated by overtly late 60's ,early 70's film styles, specifically overdoing of zooming and heavy use of too-topical soundtracks that can kill the viewing of a film seen not too many years later, not to mention 30-odd.

These are purely technical considerations, but more importantly, it really is a well balanced classy film, that avoids the cliches of the dangers of car racing, hyperbole of images or soundtrack that other films from the time overdid (as some of you may know, I'm totally **** for remembering names of films or else I'd mention a couple that fit this mold to compare against.)

I was very impressed by the balance it had dealing with Andrettis and especially Elfords feelings about the sport, the danger, the passion and in Elfords case, how he began to enjoy it less. The situation of Bonniers death (and Elford's involvement) along with the German or Austrian driver losing an eye, were both respectfully dealt with, and like I said, not with over the top styles, and shows that the filmmakers had a proper feeling of how to deal with this and other aspects of the drivers lives. Whether or not the drivers involved were able to intuitively know that the filmmakers weren't hacks before they decided to get collaborate in the film cant be known, but I'm glad they did, as its a film that stands out as a great period piece for the cars, the tracks, the different attitude to the risks, and was done with class that stands up to time.

Was fascinating for me to see Lemans from that time (with foreboding, as I knew of Bonniers death, and was pretty certain it was to be the same year as events in the film) My best friend who tapes race stuff for me had it on an unmarked cassette, and so it was a sureprise viewing, didnt know what was on it, and didnt know of the film before, so it was a real surprise treat.(to top it off, wife and kids were in bed, and so had a quiet late night uninterupted viewing!)

anyway, those are some of my thoughts, anyone else familiar with it?

ps, makes me pine for Lemans again.......being there I mean.
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Old 19 Dec 2004, 08:20 (Ref:1183002)   #2
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I posted about the movie (I bought it to an american provider in 2002 via internet, quite cheap, no problem of shipping) I think in fall 2003 ; this is one of the most impressive film I ever seen about sportscars, no romance, no useless considerations... just race, pilots... and great cars !

This movie follows me on my laptop everywhere, and I can easely watch it three or four times a year without beeing bored.

A piece of advice : if you've never seen it, don't wait for more...
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Old 19 Dec 2004, 13:11 (Ref:1183140)   #3
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Absolutely recomendable, great fun to watch. Video has historical value, just like Pole Position (even though that one has a few more accidents in it).

Has it been released on DVD yet?
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Old 19 Dec 2004, 14:28 (Ref:1183178)   #4
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Absolutely recomendable, great fun to watch. Video has historical value, just like Pole Position (even though that one has a few more accidents in it).

Has it been released on DVD yet?
In autosport there was an advert where to buy speed merchants on Dvd.
So it must be available on dvd.
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Old 19 Dec 2004, 14:56 (Ref:1183195)   #5
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Speed Merchants was shot on film (not videotape) by Michael Keyser. He spent a great deal of money to do everything just right, from entering a Porsche with a camera mount in several races (the camera car, a yellow Porsche can be seen going off the track in the Sebring portion) to commissioning an original musical score for the film. After editing he had over 800,000 feet of film left over -- one can only imagine what all was never shown. I'm biased, as Michael is a good friend of mine, but I consider Speed Merchants as undoubtedly the best motorsports documentary ever made. It has a plot -- Alfa vs. Ferrari during the season -- and all the drivers cooperated with the project. (The film of the Bonnier accident and the Ferrari Daytona is real, by the way. There was a French cameraman out on that corner early in the morning, and just happend to catch the results on film. Michael found him, bought the film, and used it in his movie.)

I hope I'm not violating any advertising restrictions to say that Michael has a website at autosportsltd.com, where the movie is available on DVD. I'd also highly recommend Michael's book, A French Kiss with Death, about Steve McQueen and the making of the film LeMans. Anyone who has seen the movie and enjoyed it will really enjoy the book.

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Old 19 Dec 2004, 15:35 (Ref:1183209)   #6
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In addition to what fazzaz said, with which I totally agree, there is/was also a book published called Speed Merchants that covers a broader scope then the film, but has sensational photos. That is a must see too.

The Austrian driver was Helmut Marco, who lost his eye when a stone was thrown up by another car, French Grand Prix 1972 at Clermont Ferrand (spell?).

I love this film!!! I saw it first time last year or early this year on Speed. I went to that Daytona and that Sebring, and saw the Ferraris, Alfas, Lolas. I think because Micheal Keyser was a driver it gave him an inside sense and view as to how to portray the stage play that is a race. One aspect of long distance racing that has always appealed to me, and is portrayed well in the film, is the poetry that begins to take place over long distances/times. The rhythm that develops as car passes car, gets passed, ducks out of a chase to pit, the other gaining huge distance until it too must stop. It is almost a weird kind of ballet, but set to the music of the ripping sounds of race engines asked to give their all.

Great sequence on the Targa, great film of big sports cars at the 'ring. This film has it all!

Since none of you lot are going to give me the DVD of this film I guess I better give it to myself!

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Old 19 Dec 2004, 18:56 (Ref:1183330)   #7
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Speed Mercahnts

I got Speed Merchants on VHS about 5 or 6 years ago and have enjoyed it many times since then. I went to the 24 hours at Daytona last year and saw they had the movie on DVD at a souvenir tent so I bought it on dvd. The disc was already signed by Micheal Keyser. Just when I payed for it Vic Elford showed up and I asked him to sign it on the disc and cover. I met him twice brofor that and he is a very interestin guy and full of all kinds of stories.
You can buy the dvd from Vic's site http://vicelford.com. You can also get it signed by him from his site. You do need to have Paypal.
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as I mentioned, watching this film was complete happenstance, and I didnt know anything about Elford beforehand, so I'm very happy for the mention of his website, with info about his career (thanks A) as I was going to ask some of you more questions about him. I'm also very happy to see that you who responded have similiar feelings about the film, its nice to see that my initial reaction to it is in sync with you lot who follow Sportscar stuff so much more than me, although appreciating the film for its merits doesn't really need that much background info, even though I was familiar with the Sebring race, the Bonnier incident and some general background about Redman (and of course Icyx)

I see it as especially important as a document, because with the Targa and the old Nurburgring at the end of their racing lives, the film shows the end of a very dangerous era, or at least teh beginning of the change towards safer tracks and cars.

thanks all for the comments
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It's 3°C under here now: quite hot !

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I bought the dvd at Autonet Bookstore in Rotterdam. The book is one of my all time favorite's and a def must have. Nice to read about the fact that Michael Keyser started a race team (toad Hall Racing) started making photopgraphs and then decided to make a movie.
I think the Toad Hall name was seen at Le mans over the years. I think the logo was on a konrad GT2 in 1999.
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Old 20 Dec 2004, 10:07 (Ref:1183754)   #11
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Vic is a hero of mine - he's also a bloody nice chap, I bumped into him when he came over to the festival of speed, and invited him to talk at our motorclubs 50th Anniversary dinner - He turned up and gave a great talk. He had not been involved with the club for years but still showed that he not only remembers his roots - he embraces them.

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The book was reissued (in a revised edition) a year or two ago (About the same as A French Kiss With Death was released and by the same people, I think) and I think they issued a DVD/Video release of the film at the same time.

I found an original edition copy of the book and it is excellent, both for the pictures and words, but the new edition has around 50% more pages (and pictures), so you get good value for money, although I only paid £15 for my used first edition.

You can find out more at : http://www.autosportsltd.com/video_s...hants_more.php

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I bought the movie on DVD last year, and I have to say the only deficiency was it came in a CD Jewelcase. It offended me so much that I emailed Michael and he sent me the images he used on the VHS page, and I put together a DVD box coverpage in Photoshop, and I sent a copy of it in .pdf format to Michael to use as he saw fit.

So if you got it in a jewelcase and want a proper cover, email me; if you bought it and it came in a proper DVD case with a cover page, you know who to blame for putting the spine text in the wrong way.

It's a brilliant film and a brilliant book. Keyser also wrote "A French Kiss With Death" about the making of the McQueen epic Le Mans.

As far as I'm concerned, you can advertise anything associated with him on this forum with impunity.
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I bought the movie on DVD last year, and I have to say the only deficiency was it came in a CD Jewelcase. It offended me so much that I emailed Michael and he sent me the images he used on the VHS page, and I put together a DVD box coverpage in Photoshop, and I sent a copy of it in .pdf format to Michael to use as he saw fit.

So if you got it in a jewelcase and want a proper cover, email me; if you bought it and it came in a proper DVD case with a cover page, you know who to blame for putting the spine text in the wrong way.

It's a brilliant film and a brilliant book. Keyser also wrote "A French Kiss With Death" about the making of the McQueen epic Le Mans.

As far as I'm concerned, you can advertise anything associated with him on this forum with impunity.

Technically a "proper dvd case" is called an Amaray case

Paul did you really email him because it was in a jewel case!?!?! Although I respect all your racing opinions, I run a music store and it just really bugs me when people do stuff like that. Sorry.

Anwyays, I too saw the film on Speed, and searched for the re-air and it's been on my DVR ever since. I'll probably order a copy for my Dad's next birthday.
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Here's what keeps me from ordering via Autosports Ltd.: aren't there separate area codes, or standard, or whatever for DVDs? What I haven't been able to find out - Autosports has not replied to my message yet, and Duke Video does not seem to have the DVD in stock at all - is the DVD available in European, er, format or whatever you call it. I'd like to sort this out before ordering.
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The word you are looking for is 'region'.
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Paul did you really email him because it was in a jewel case!?!?! Although I respect all your racing opinions, I run a music store and it just really bugs me when people do stuff like that. Sorry.

Why? I'd like to think I'd have done the same thing.
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Fine. I have placed an order with a regional DVD Merchant, and if he doesn't get me a DVD I can watch he'll fry in hell.
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Here's what keeps me from ordering via Autosports Ltd.: aren't there separate area codes, or standard, or whatever for DVDs? What I haven't been able to find out - Autosports has not replied to my message yet, and Duke Video does not seem to have the DVD in stock at all - is the DVD available in European, er, format or whatever you call it. I'd like to sort this out before ordering.
I ordered it somewhere in California, and did'nt encounter any problem to read it, but i can't remember if there was a 'region' code or not... I don't think so (as my laptop doesn't want to read other ones but 'region 2' = Europe)
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After reading this topic I ordered this DVD (thanks mikmx for your tip about Autonet Bookstore). Today I received the DVD and I watched only the first 15 minutes but my conclusion is already: This DVD is really great!!!
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Got the original book back in '73 when it first came out. Got the video in the mid '80s after i saqw the first ad in On Track. Got the revised copy of the book a couple of years ago along with the DVD and the pic CD too. All are great stuff. Michael is a stand up guy and usually see him once or twice a year at the races...

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Michael is a stand up guy and usually see him once or twice a year at the races...
Do you ? Please, say all the pleasure we have with his movie, and suggest him to make another one on ALMS/GARRA - or even LMES/FIA-GT - 30 years later !
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Unfortunately, that won't happen. Michael lost a lot of money on Speed Merchants and is long on to other things. He and I tried to do something at Monterey this year to recognize Milt Minter, a Porsche and Ferrari racer who is now in hospice. Michael did a lot in 2004 to let Milt drive his last races.

Another filmmaker, with a fresh eye and his money still intact, needs to document today's racing.
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