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26 Feb 2005, 23:22 (Ref:1236947)
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Nick Heidfeld, top three 2005 championship, is it worth a tenner bet???
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Drunken pub bet. I have said that NH will finish in the top three of the 2005 F1 championship. He'll walk over Webber, no doubt about that, but I'm seriously considering putting a tenner on this. Am I seriously deluded??? |
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26 Feb 2005, 23:30 (Ref:1236962)
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You're not seriously deluded, you're a nutter!
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26 Feb 2005, 23:31 (Ref:1236964)
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It's worth it! I've got ten quid on Fisi winning in Oz.
I mean, what's a tenner? 
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26 Feb 2005, 23:31 (Ref:1236965)
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He also has to beat the Ferraris, McLarens, Renaults, BARs, etc as well as his team mate. I'm not sure he'll do it. However it isn't totally unlikely.
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26 Feb 2005, 23:31 (Ref:1236966)
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Depends how good the Williams is.
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26 Feb 2005, 23:34 (Ref:1236971)
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Im not sure about the car,but i am huge believer in Nick's ability, i think this is a great bet, go for it!!
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26 Feb 2005, 23:36 (Ref:1236974)
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He'll **** all over Webber, the only competition for him will be Montoya and Raikkonen. I think he will finish the season ahead of both, because he'a a better racer and never makes mistakes. I have assumed that TGF and Rubens will be 1-2 in the championship, who else does he have to contend with? BAR will go backwards this year, Toyota will go forward, but not enough to worry Williams, Alonso is not consistent enough, and Fisi doesn't have the car under him. Seriously though, if not NH, ***who*** will finish 3rd??? At best it will save me from wasting a tenner! |
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26 Feb 2005, 23:36 (Ref:1236978)
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Depends on the odds.
If he's 100-1 each way, go for it. If it's evens, it's not value. I'd reckon his odds of getting in the top 3 are around 6-1 against, you have to assume Schumi will take one of them, one of the Macs will take another, and Rubens, the other Mac, Webber, possibly Button and the Renaults are all in with a shout of it, so if the odds are better than that it's worth a punt. |
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27 Feb 2005, 07:48 (Ref:1236988)
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NH would have to contend with MS, Rubinho, Alonso, Kimi, Fisi...I wouldn't put my tenner on NH being in the top 3, but maybe in the top 5!
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27 Feb 2005, 07:52 (Ref:1236992)
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nutter for sure
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27 Feb 2005, 07:56 (Ref:1236995)
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The only way NH will finish 3rd if MW finishes 1st or 2nd.
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27 Feb 2005, 11:14 (Ref:1237141)
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Don't let bias get in the way whatever you do lads.
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27 Feb 2005, 11:17 (Ref:1237142)
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The signs are that Williams arent as fast as the Renaults and Macs and possibly Ferrari... so probably not a great bet... but if Williams come up with a good car...i wouldnt be surprised if it did happen...
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27 Feb 2005, 11:26 (Ref:1237157)
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As several said,it's only a tenner
He won't do it though.Sure he could well beat mark for points (even though mark is the faster driver) but he will also have to also beat waaaay too many fast guys in better cars |
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27 Feb 2005, 13:30 (Ref:1237286)
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I think Nick has every chance of beating Webber, but the Williams simply isn't good enough to challenge this year. They've seemingly got the same teething problems as they've had every year recently, and they seem to be a shambles on the technical side. BAR and Renault should trounce them this year, and a Toyota driver finishing in the top 10 isn't inconcievable. Still, no one would've predicted Button to finish 3rd last year, so you can't always tell.
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27 Feb 2005, 13:34 (Ref:1237287)
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You're a nutter...
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27 Feb 2005, 17:18 (Ref:1237376)
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nick will **** all over webber! 1 week to go, cant wait!
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27 Feb 2005, 18:19 (Ref:1237406)
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If Williams get things straight, they are just as dangerous as any other team - so a bet on either of their drivers might not be all that silly. I think you'd be nuts to bet on NH beating Webber however, unless the odds were pretty generous - the bookies make him roughly double Webber's odds, which feels about right to me. To that you have to add the odds on Williams having a great year - say 2-1 again. So - odds of about 4-1 might be worth a tenner.
I'd bet on Fisi myself. Each way @ 50-1 for WDC. Each way to cover it slightly, at 1/5th odds for a place... But you can't get those odds anymore! Last edited by Glen; 27 Feb 2005 at 18:20. |
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27 Feb 2005, 18:56 (Ref:1237430)
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Assuming that Williams aren't sandbagging, they simply aren't fast. I really don't trust their current staff (including the drivers to an extent - although both have obvious potential, neither is proven yet) and the lack of testing this year is going to make it very hard for them to correct any problems. I can't see either Williams guy challenging for 3rd.
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27 Feb 2005, 21:06 (Ref:1237559)
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27 Feb 2005, 22:03 (Ref:1237598)
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Ladbrokes have NH at 5-2 to win at least one GP in 2005, whereas they make Webber even-money for the same thing.
WDC - They don't have odds for a pure place (ie top 3) but they do offer each way odds which work out at about 13-1 for top three. If you are seriously interested in risking a tenner, I'd bet with a bookie and expect to get at least 12-1. Incidentally, Ladbrokes also have a good book on number of wins for teams and drivers in 2005 - you can get 20-1 for Williams to win four or more races - if it is a tightly contested year, and Williams aren't in as bad a shape as they look right now, that has got to be worth it. Last edited by Glen; 27 Feb 2005 at 22:05. |
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28 Feb 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1238089)
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I think Nick can beat Webber in the championship, but I'd agree that anything less than about 12-1 wouldn't be good odds for a top 3 finish. If everyone had equal cars I'd expect Nick to challenge for that kind of position, but the Williams is unlikely to shine.
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