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13 Apr 2006, 16:23 (Ref:1580507)
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Why in the hell would Kimi go to Ferrari
The are not good.... They Suck!!! Kimi will never ever be champie if he goes to the Red Team....
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13 Apr 2006, 16:27 (Ref:1580508)
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Eleven titles in the last six years may have something to do with it. Unparalleled reliability over that time too. Fantastic resources. That logo? A decent wage. Pasta?
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13 Apr 2006, 16:33 (Ref:1580513)
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Schu is leaving....the team will collapse....
He should be going to Torro Rosso... A team with prospects.... JPm going to Red Bull and will beat Kimi ... JPM is smart man |
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13 Apr 2006, 17:00 (Ref:1580529)
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It all depends on when Kimi was talking to Ferrari.
The general consensus is that he started speaking to Ferrari 2003/2004-ish. This was a time when Ferrari were the dominant force, particularly 2004. He may have signed a contract in 2004, it is feasible. In which case, looking back, it was the obvious thing to do. This is all conjecture however! |
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13 Apr 2006, 17:03 (Ref:1580532)
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I think the Ferrari era is over. If Kimi joins Ferrari he'll be worse off.
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13 Apr 2006, 17:18 (Ref:1580541)
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Who's to say? Certainly it appears that way at the moment.
But there is nothing to suggest McLaren will dominate the game either.....the team to be at is Renault, currently! We've got some emerging teams coming too....where will RBR, BMW-Sauber etc...be in a couple of years. Will Renault still be in the game? You've just got to pick your team and hope for the best! |
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13 Apr 2006, 18:14 (Ref:1580581)
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They have one off season and suddenly you see them as a mediocre team! I don't think so somehow! Like Adam said, 11 titles in 6 years is a mighty record. They're around the same place as Mclaren at the minute so it wouldn't be a step down. Better reliability record as well, something that will always be playing on Kimi's mind while at Mclaren after last year! Lets not forget how dominant they were in 2004! The rules were changed just to allow everyone else to catch up! (as well a reduced costs!) They'll be major players for years to come.
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13 Apr 2006, 18:18 (Ref:1580585)
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Ironic that we all state Ferrari's reliability as their selling point when they are currently doing far worse than McLaren have done this season on that count!
But I agree, cast your net over the last decade and Ferrari are well on top in the reliability stakes. Obvious really. |
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13 Apr 2006, 18:21 (Ref:1580589)
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Is Ferrari's reliability better than McLaren's? Don't forget the 2 engine failures in Malaysia before the race, and that Massa's car was wrecked before it had a chance to break down in Australia. On pace McLaren are definitely still ahead.
Kimi probably either doesn't want to race alongside Alonso, or is being offered more money by Ferrari than McLaren. The chances of the winning Ferrari team still being in one piece in a couple of seasons is slim, and they don't seem to have attracted strong replacements, or neccessarily have great guys waiting in the wings. If Kimi believes he can beat Alonso in a straight fight (and he currently has Ron on his side, which can be a big deal at McLaren) he is better to stay where he is. |
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13 Apr 2006, 18:23 (Ref:1580593)
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if he signed in 2004 then it was the correct decsion.... if he signed later then it is questionable one...
Although Ferrari will be back to the top once again...one time or the other.. Ferrari know how to win they have a great record... i would still choose them over RBR, or indeed Toro Rosso ( as mentioned by meatloaf)... |
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13 Apr 2006, 18:25 (Ref:1580595)
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13 Apr 2006, 18:25 (Ref:1580597)
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I remember saying, when Alonso signing for McLaren was announced, that Fernando would only sign if he knew Kimi was elsewhere. That was on the basis that Kimi is the favoured son in the McLaren empire and I think you'd have to be mad to sign for McLaren knowing Kimi is still there! Not to mention his undoubted speed of course.
Fernando, for me, is a team leader in the same way Michael is. I can't ever see him having an outrageously good teammate, merely very good teammates. On that basis, I still haven't changed my mind that Kimi will be elsewhere next season. |
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13 Apr 2006, 18:27 (Ref:1580599)
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so basically your agreeing with my previous post....
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13 Apr 2006, 18:41 (Ref:1580613)
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Depends who started typing first really....I'd wager that it was me.
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13 Apr 2006, 18:43 (Ref:1580614)
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the one who posted first gets bragging rights im afraid... Im sure Adam will agree with me....
although knowles now being a mod and all.. you never know...
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13 Apr 2006, 18:51 (Ref:1580622)
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13 Apr 2006, 19:13 (Ref:1580633)
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which part did you in bononi? the Toro Rosso bit or the one about JPM being smart?
btw welcome to the forums meatloaf... i assure you not all mods are scary like bononi...
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13 Apr 2006, 19:32 (Ref:1580642)
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I think Ferrari lured Kimi with the promise of diamonds.......and more diamonds......Actually, I do think Ferrari must have a plan up their sleeve, now especially with Kimi going there. Should make for some good competition though.
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13 Apr 2006, 19:36 (Ref:1580645)
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and dont forget, next year EVERYONE will be on bridgestones.
and ferrari were certainly at a tyre disadvantage last year, who is to say this year too. next year all the current michelin teams will have to play a massive catch up. |
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13 Apr 2006, 20:09 (Ref:1580675)
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I think Ferrari would be a better long-term choice than McLaren. As said before, Ferrari have had excellent reliability. McLaren have had poor reliabilty at time for years ago, mainly on the Mercedes side.
It seems the Bridgestones are a weak link at the moment, but since everyone will be using them next year it won't matter. Ferrari still have pleanty of titles left in them, and I wouldn't blame Kimi if he wanted a piece of that pie. |
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13 Apr 2006, 20:10 (Ref:1580677)
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Yeah, welcome meatloaf... I must be getting old, or times are changed. I usually just scare little girls and fans of a certain driver...  I will steer away from JPM as Mr V might be coming for the rescue, but I really can't stand Toro Rosso being better than Ferrari. |
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13 Apr 2006, 20:20 (Ref:1580682)
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Mr V is a soft touch compared to what I've got lined up in the event of JPM bashing Bon...
 
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13 Apr 2006, 20:45 (Ref:1580706)
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13 Apr 2006, 21:53 (Ref:1580767)
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I think the chance of Kimi staying at Mclaren is a good 75%. Ferrari is banking on Shumi to do another 2 years and are poaching a certain mr Rossi to join the team. What would Kimi gonna do with these 2 topdrivers? Testing? No way. I really doubt very much Kimi signed a contract with Ferrari. In the case of Shumi retiring i can see them trying to lure him to marranello, but Dennis is not stupid and might be a nice season to see Lonso and Kimi together.
But il stick with my claim nothing has signed yet. Either Rossi or Shumi has to make up their mind first. |
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13 Apr 2006, 22:35 (Ref:1580811)
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I think Adam summed up the correct response to the original question. And... I can't help thinking that there's another championship left in the Brawn Todt era...
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