Chevron B18 - 10-Tenths Motorsport Forum

Dan Rear · 21 Jul 2006, 11:31

As I don't know how to start new threads, I'm posting a B18 point on here, sorry !!

Some 75 A/Sports I'm reading detail a David Aukland B18 at Longridge that year. I presume this is the ex-Cyd W Atlantic from 1971-2. Any comments ??

**Peter Mallett** · 21 Jul 2006, 12:20

I took the liberty of starting it for you.

allenbrown · 21 Jul 2006, 14:15

Kim Mather drove it once. He might know.

(If you ask him, ask him about his 1975-1977 libre 74B/752/75B/742 thing.)

Chris Townsend · 22 Jul 2006, 09:33

Dan
The Eden B18 went to Canada in 1973 sold to Bob Armstrong.
I suspect that this is the ex Mather car.

We need to sort out B18s though, because I've now seen two completely different numbers and histories assigned to the ex Redman car, used in S.Africa in Jan/Feb 71.
According to MN/AS that car was 18.71.01 and went to John Powell at the end of 1971, but we've also got that number allocated to the Mather car in 1972.
Meantime we have 18.71.03 [the Siffert F2 car] also claimed as ex Redman in the blurb for a Coys catalogue...
One of us cannot be wrong, to quote the great Leonard Cohen.

Chris

allenbrown · 22 Jul 2006, 11:29

I had completely forgotten that Mather ran a B18 so I hope nobody thought my last post facetious. I had noticed a 1975 libre race where Mather was sais to be driving Auckland's B18. I just thought he had saved up some more pennies for another hire drive but it would make more sense if he was a previous owner of the car.

Chris Townsend · 23 Jul 2006, 10:17

The Mathers owned an awful lot of cars.
Mike started in Atlantic/libre with a B17 in 1971 then the B18 with a BRM t/c in early 72. Then they got the ex Santo Palliser WDB4 off of Howlings, primarily for the BDA I guess, and put the t/c in that for Kim to race in libre.
Swapped the B18 for the ex Coaker 712M, then got the Calvert 722-29
and I think that Dad raced a Lola T140 or 142

Chris

Dan Rear · 24 Jul 2006, 09:04

Blimey Chris, a lot there! I may be seeing Kim soon (on an Annuity issue, but I won't bore you with that here) so I'll see if I can pin him down on these matters !!

allenbrown · 24 Jul 2006, 09:24

I had forgotten the Mathers had a Lola T142. It was the ex-McKechnie/Walker, ex-Kaye Griffiths SL142/35. The only result I have for it is Mike at an Oulton libre in June 1971, his debut. I'd be very interested to know where that car went next as it joins the mass of T142s in hillclimbs, sprints and classified ads. F1R says Chris Shaw had it in 1973...

Dan Rear · 25 Jul 2006, 11:15

Met Kim this morn, and had a good chat. The Aukland B18 was the car he and Mike had had before, he said it was an awful car. Apparently they did a lot of dealing with Bobby Howlings on various cars in those days. He recalled the Palliser as being a v nice car to drive, just not very fast, ditto the BT38 he also ran. (see post on the March thread).

Chris Townsend · 8 Sep 2006, 18:03

Gradually sorting out the B18s
Chevron book says 13 built: 1 FVC, 4 FVA, 6 t/c, 1 BRM t/c and 1 Hart BDA
Four of them are chassis no 1...

18.F2.71.1 test car for Redman in South Africa with FVC, bought back to run F2 for Chris Craft. Sold to John Powell for Canadian FB 1972

18.71.1 Herve Bayard FVA

18.71.2 Siffert then Frey

18.71.3 Siffert renta car in F2

18.71.4 don't know

18.A.71.1 Eden with BDA

six to Opert and other American customers
one for Barrie Maskell with BRM t.c in F3. Any observations of a number on this one, it just vanishes after 71.

Chris

Andrew Fellowes · 22 Jan 2007, 04:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

18.71.1 Herve Bayard FVA
Chris

Sport-auto Fevrier 1972

Chevron F2 71, B18.
et. nf, av, ou ss mot et nf- H BAYARD RACING Leucourt par 80-ROYE

allenbrown · 19 Feb 2007, 13:34

There's a picture of the mysterious Etienne Grobot Chevron in Echappement Dec 1973 and it's definitely a B18. I'd recognise that nose anywhere (as people often say to me).

http://www.oldracingcars.com/images/...3-12-p135a.jpg

I'll remove the above image link soon.

Allen

Chris Townsend · 19 Feb 2007, 13:55

Few other cars were that ugly!
Are we presuming this to have been the Bayard car?
Schafer has his B18 into 1973, so it can't be that one [which is, I think the Frey car recovered]
I think that Green's car was the ex Siffert 03 chassis. It's described when for sale in early 73 as converted to Atlantic [meaning it started life as F2] and only eight races. Actually that's more than any other B18, and suggests it has to be the Siffert rental car from 71.

Chris

AMICALEMANS · 19 Feb 2007, 14:20

It is a misterious car, but Bernard-Etienne Grobot was a well known driver in rallying, hillclimb and track (at Le Mans). He was kill in an Hillclimb crash.

allenbrown · 19 Feb 2007, 15:13

Bernard-Etienne Grobot died at St Antonin in 1997. Was that the same man as Etienne Grobot who raced in the early 1970s?